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Old 05-06-2013, 08:21 AM   #1
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Noise when steering at low speeds

I have a very annoying, almost metal on metal squealing sound when i turn at low speeds and when i am parked. No matter left or right. Thank you for the help in advance
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:56 AM   #2
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I've got a similar noise. Got it identified as my power steering pump.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:41 AM   #3
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I have a very annoying, almost metal on metal squealing sound when i turn at low speeds and when i am parked. No matter left or right. Thank you for the help in advance
Open hood.
Start car.
Have a helper turn the steering wheel side to side as you look under the hood and listen to where the noises are coming from.

Open the Power Steering Fluid Reservior and see if there is any fluid, or sufficient fluid (because "any" might not be enough).

HINT
The hood is in the front, the engine lives under it.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:44 AM   #4
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Sorry man, but this is a fundamental automotive thing. It's like asking if anybody knows why the tire is flat on the bottom, or I turned the lights on but nothing happened.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:35 PM   #5
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Sorry man, but this is a fundamental automotive thing. It's like asking if anybody knows why the tire is flat on the bottom, or I turned the lights on but nothing happened.
I say if he didn't know - it is ok to ask right? (after searching etc). That's the benefit of the forum.

Post after post comes in with those with skills totally belittling others...I don't get it. If you want the forum to be only for highly skilled mechanical types then perhaps separating the forum into skill levels may be needed. Seriously, we have multiple sections, why not a basic versus advanced sections where people can ask skill level appropriate questions without getting flamed?

Just a thought.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:50 PM   #6
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I just don't get it. Noise from under the hood demands one open the hood and at least look, not get on the interweb (thanks, Mr. Gore) and ask.

I don't mean to belittle, but it is clear that I have a gene that some must not have. The reason I come here is because I like to help, but I have to scratch my head when the question is the equivelent of, "it's windy in here and the windows are down, what should I do?"

The OP is low on power steering fluid.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:19 PM   #7
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Im sorry. i knew i had a slight leak but i didn't think it was too bad. Long story short i filled it and went on a long drive and then when i got there it did it. I didn't think it would lose that much fluid and it was dark when i got back to check and i just posted it this morning. sorry again. Thank you guys for the help.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:25 PM   #8
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I say if he didn't know - it is ok to ask right? (after searching etc). That's the benefit of the forum.

Post after post comes in with those with skills totally belittling others...I don't get it. If you want the forum to be only for highly skilled mechanical types then perhaps separating the forum into skill levels may be needed. Seriously, we have multiple sections, why not a basic versus advanced sections where people can ask skill level appropriate questions without getting flamed?

Just a thought.
Thank you for understanding.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:49 PM   #9
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Open hood.
Start car.
Have a helper turn the steering wheel side to side as you look under the hood and listen to where the noises are coming from.

Open the Power Steering Fluid Reservior and see if there is any fluid, or sufficient fluid (because "any" might not be enough).

HINT
The hood is in the front, the engine lives under it.
So thanks for being sarcastic but the fluid is fine. even with my leak its still fine. im going ball joints. so no need to be an asshole
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:10 PM   #10
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Fluid level might be fine, but just to make sure, check for cloudiness. That was a sign for me that my steering pump went bad and kept groaning even though there was no leak. I didn't maintain the fluid back then. Good thing that came out of it was that I learned where the steering pump is on my car and how to change it hahah
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #11
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I seriously doubt the ball joints are the problem. They could be, but I give it a one on a scale of ten. I'd give it a zero, but one is reasonable.

You have not described very well where the noise is coming from, and the most prolific source of noise in a power steering system is the power steering pump, and it usually makes noise because the fluid is low.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:44 PM   #12
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Noise is power steering pump... Most likely got air in the line before you topped it off
Most likely not your ball joints but couldn't hurt to replace them also
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:48 PM   #13
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That noise is most likely a dying power steering pump, not ball joints.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:30 AM   #14
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Thank you everyone, i did jack it up and had someone turn the wheel with the car on and off and it is indeed the ball joint on the right side. time to get a new control arm set. thanks again, cody
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:50 AM   #15
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Did you determine it was ball joints because the noise went away when it was off the ground? Or you could hear it when shaking the wheel by hand?
I still think it's a power steering pump.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #16
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Thank you everyone, i did jack it up and had someone turn the wheel with the car on and off and it is indeed the ball joint on the right side. time to get a new control arm set. thanks again, cody
That's odd. Normally a worn ball joint will present itself as an alignment problem -- tire wear, that sort of thing -- and occasionally you might hear some clunking as you drove over a speed bump or enter a driveway. Ball joints also play into symptoms of the car wandering around on the road, you constantly need to provide steering input to keep the car on track.

Your description of the symptom does not support the finding. You might need ball joints, but you did not describe the normal and customary symptoms that go along with this diagnosis.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:34 PM   #17
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That's odd. Normally a worn ball joint will present itself as an alignment problem -- tire wear, that sort of thing -- and occasionally you might hear some clunking as you drove over a speed bump or enter a driveway. Ball joints also play into symptoms of the car wandering around on the road, you constantly need to provide steering input to keep the car on track.

Your description of the symptom does not support the finding. You might need ball joints, but you did not describe the normal and customary symptoms that go along with this diagnosis.
I jacked it up with the car off, you can turn it and sit right by the ball joint and hear thats exactly where it is coming from
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:33 PM   #18
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Are you sure its not coming from the power steering or the rack? Ball joints don't usually squeal when turning, they clunk when driving over bumps.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #19
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It's no use, OP replace your control arms.
When you are done and the noise is still there then you will know that everyone who gave you advice was right and you can replace your power steering pump at that time.
For someone asking about a problem you sure seem confident in your diagnosis. Why'd you bother asking us in the first place?
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:45 PM   #20
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What's the typical life span of a power steering pump?
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