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Old 01-11-2012, 11:36 PM   #1
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Aeromotive 15 gallon Eliminator Fuel Cell

We did something a little different. I take credit for idea and design on this one. We run a 15 gallon Aeromotive Stealth fuel cell in the trunk..plenty of room. Our model came with their giant ELIMINATOR pump already installed inside the cell. Built in roll over valves(SS balls I think) in the -8AN vents, -8AN return line and -10AN feed.

We ran a combination of kevler braided carbon impregnated teflon (for anti static charge) and solid SS fuel line to two AN "Y"'s ..one for the return and one for the feed. Inline are the baddest lever action ball valves I could find...very pricey Peterson Fluids.
Beauty is we can switch from race gas in the fuel cell to 93 in the tank for the drive home. This isnt a thing you need for a car you trailer to the track admitley. The fuel cell can be run very low and not suck any air by design. No surge pump needed. We wont even test this feature too closely as our max fuel consumption should not go above 10 gallons.

When we switch to E85 we will have a fuel system all ready for it. Still using the fuel cell for the track, we use the main tank for anything(dry for the track and E85 or pump gas to get home). It also gives me a 35 gallon capacity for trips when running e85. Switching tanks takes 30 seconds. Just run it in the pump mode for a few minutes before switching to the race gas ignition curve.

Pump switches are on safety switches and both my main tank A1000 and my fuel cell Eliminator are wired into a "pump controller" which is RPM programmable so the pump only needs to spin up at higher RPMS. A lot less noise at idle and less wear and tear and much cooler fuel too with the controller.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:02 AM   #2
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Pics of your setup and car Bdave...been waiting a long time to see this beast!!!
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:09 AM   #3
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:58 AM   #4
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Pics of your setup and car Bdave...been waiting a long time to see this beast!!!
I have been waiting longer! I dont have a single one!I cant get pix for the life of me from the builder. He says he has a CD's worth of step by step on the build. He just doesnt want anything published until the project is done and the final numbers are in. He wants to remain anon for time being and stay OFF the forums. He hates politics. Cant say as I blame him.

I am planning on a visit MAYBE if I can get there before some scheduled surgery. I will take some close ups and post. I DID post pix of MOST of the components and fuel line that made up the fuel cell circuit in a older thread.
This forum will not allow me to re upload them once they are in a thread.

Most of you have never seen a Peterson ball valve shut off before. It is such a jewel! It is the BEST I could find. Here are some stock photos:
I am quite pleased with the components. No expense was spared for the very best available. Race fuel system is something you do not want to scrimp on. Well, ANY fuel system really. Note... the fuel cell fuel pump pick up is not shown to scale. It does go much closer to the bottom of the fuel cell.

This will be MORE than E85 ready. The Aeromotive Eliminator pump is just ridiculous in its level of performance.. With out a pump controller it might be as loud as an exhaust! But being buried inside a fuel cell plus having the RPM controlled voltage throttle, that helps to really quiet things.

My techs decided to go with ginormous FIC 2150cc injectors. I think they are way way to large, but I don't build fuel systems for a living. My guys say they gave the injectors size a lot of thought. I am told even these monsters will idle fine with our tiny displacement motors.

I bought a full set of new AN wrenches and even vice jaw inserts(delrin or poly?) to assemble the AN fittings. We are using the proprietary AN's from Pegasus for the fuel line and Aeromotive AN fittings for the rest of the build. And Aeromotive -10AN/-6AN fuel pump regulator.

The car will not leave the shop until it makes a min of 800RWHP. We have the potential for more. I will honor our tuners advice for anything over 800HP.

The new ultra ultra strong HPF head bolts are installed finally, the VANOS is partially rebuilt with Besian stuff and the valves are receiving a lash adjustment.
Need to install the fuel cell and wiring and lines and button her up. a lot of work really since we need to tap into the main fuel lines. two to three weeks incl dyno tuning. Should be done before the end of the month.

EDITS: Project way way behind schedule/overdue. Steed manifold deemed totally inadequate. It has been split and ported, re assembled and re coated with ceramic. Also, the Aeromotive fuel pump controller is not wholly based on voltage. It uses a wave modulation to control. Simply reducing voltage will burn the pump out in short order.

Custom 17x11" wheels are due in any day now. Same manufacture as APEX so they match the front 18x9.5 inch. Rubber:front Nitto NT05 265/35x18...tire diameter 25.31" Rear: compromise for price and performance. Not the best DR out there, but much more stable at speed due to stiffer sidewall. 211bux each SHIPPED two day air Nitto NT555R Drag High Performance Tire - 315/35x17 102VR.Tire diameter 25.79" Looking at everything, price/performance etc, this was wholly my decision. For sale: pair of MT 275/40x17 never mounted.
No progress reports on assembling. AFAIK, the motor is still out of the car and the project is months away from completion. Not very pleased.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #5
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Nice work. Glad to see someone put in the effort and see it through.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:54 AM   #6
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Hey Dave,

would love to hear if you have any updates on this for all of us stuck with Race Gas (since E85 is nowhere close...)

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Old 03-24-2012, 06:50 AM   #7
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Sounds great. We are running a 15 gallon fuel cell as well. We will have to compare notes
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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here is what my old 5 gallon fuel cell looked like for my nitrous setup

before I had the lines shortened
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