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Old 09-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #1
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Agressive setup on sedan, will I need camber?

Hey guys, I have the opportunity to pick up a set of bbs ch's. The sizes are as follows:
front: 18x8.5 et 35
rear: 18x10 et 40

My car is a e46 sedan, so I know these wheels will be super aggressive and a tight fit. I've done some searching, and found that a few people have fit these sizes on a sedan, but my question is whether or not I can do it with stock camber? I'm lowered on h&r touring cup kit, and my fenders are rolled. Thanks for any input.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:08 PM   #2
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The fronts will fit no problem and the rears will stick out about 11mm more then what I would recommend for your car (9.5 ET45). That is a little less then half an inch. Camber will be necessary, a stretched tire and a pull perhaps.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:40 PM   #3
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The fronts will fit no problem and the rears will stick out about 11mm more then what I would recommend for your car (9.5 ET45). That is a little less then half an inch. Camber will be necessary, a stretched tire and a pull perhaps.
Guys on the forums here claiming they fit 10 inch rears et 40 with just a roll..
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:47 PM   #4
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Guys on the forums here claiming they fit 10 inch rears et 40 with just a roll..
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Camber will be necessary, a stretched tire and a pull perhaps.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:53 PM   #5
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This is not really that 'aggressive..'
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:15 PM   #6
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:18 PM   #7
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really telling you.. 10+40 isnt bad at all. run a slight stretch and youre good to go. I ran 255's on a 9.5+40 with enough space to run a 10+40 without question. put stretch into play, and i wouldnt even worry. but my rears are shaved. good luck though, worst case; you run some more camber and a slight stretch.
if you think this was aggressive.. think of 19x10.5+22 on an e46 sedan.. thats the farthest i've gone.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:36 PM   #8
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really telling you.. 10+40 isnt bad at all. run a slight stretch and youre good to go. I ran 255's on a 9.5+40 with enough space to run a 10+40 without question. put stretch into play, and i wouldnt even worry. but my rears are shaved. good luck though, worst case; you run some more camber and a slight stretch.
if you think this was aggressive.. think of 19x10.5+22 on an e46 sedan.. thats the farthest i've gone.
thanks for the help. however the point is I cant run any camber. H&R cup kit...

Also worried my tires wont stretch too well on these wheels. Goodyear eagle f1's with very square sidewalls.

Heres the thing: I rub over big bumps now and Im running 18x9 et 38. Which is why I am confused as to how 18x10 et 40 wont rub...
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18x9+38? that shouldnt be rubbing unless youre running like a 275 lol.. even with exagerration. I ran a 18x9+20 as my daily on a 225 tire, not a crazy stretch, but the stance was on point. your best bet.. get some arms for the rears and run a smaller tire. otherwise these rims go out the window
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18x9+38? that shouldnt be rubbing unless youre running like a 275 lol.. even with exagerration. I ran a 18x9+20 as my daily on a 225 tire, not a crazy stretch, but the stance was on point. your best bet.. get some arms for the rears and run a smaller tire. otherwise these rims go out the window
Im running a 255 on them now. Still rub a tiny bit if people are in the back seats or if I go over a big bump going fast...

So if I continued using a 255 with the 18x10 et 40, it would be more flush, plus a little stretch on the tire... Definately will be rubbing. I appreciate the help just having a hard time understanding how everyone isnt rubbing with this setup
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thanks for the help. however the point is I cant run any camber. H&R cup kit...

Also worried my tires wont stretch too well on these wheels. Goodyear eagle f1's with very square sidewalls.

Heres the thing: I rub over big bumps now and Im running 18x9 et 38. Which is why I am confused as to how 18x10 et 40 wont rub...
Rubs on bumps, rubs a little over here, a little over there and it adds up. People who say they aren't rubbing are running some hella flush type of sh!t or just don't know what they're talking about.

It also depends on what tire you have, the sidewall being rounded or squared would have a big effect also.

Also depends on how soft your suspension is and how much travel. Some peoples car don't rub because they are so firm.
I'm running 500lb F and 600lb R spring rates, and there is minimal travel and minimal rubbing.

I'm running 18x9.5 et 45 on 255/35/18 on Michelin Pilot Super Sports and the sidewall is more squared than the Hankook Ventus V12 I had on few years ago. With the hankooks I did not rub at all, but when the PSS were put on, I rub on bumps and such, but it adds up. All writing on wear tires has been rubbed off.

You would probably want to go with atleast 265 on 10" wide imo. 10" wide wheel with less tire is stupid.

You will definitely have to roll your fender, and add some camber.

Also, do you have adjustable rear control arms? If not, buy them, every lowered car should have them.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:09 PM   #12
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Rubs on bumps, rubs a little over here, a little over there and it adds up. People who say they aren't rubbing are running some hella flush type of sh!t or just don't know what they're talking about.

It also depends on what tire you have, the sidewall being rounded or squared would have a big effect also.

Also depends on how soft your suspension is and how much travel. Some peoples car don't rub because they are so firm.
I'm running 500lb F and 600lb R spring rates, and there is minimal travel and minimal rubbing.

I'm running 18x9.5 et 45 on 255/35/18 on Michelin Pilot Super Sports and the sidewall is more squared than the Hankook Ventus V12 I had on few years ago. With the hankooks I did not rub at all, but when the PSS were put on, I rub on bumps and such, but it adds up. All writing on wear tires has been rubbed off.

You would probably want to go with atleast 265 on 10" wide imo. 10" wide wheel with less tire is stupid.

You will definitely have to roll your fender, and add some camber.

Also, do you have adjustable rear control arms? If not, buy them, every lowered car should have them.
thanks for the good response man. Yeah I'm not really a fan of stretching tires, but just dont wanna pass up on these wheels because he is a friend so he is giving me an absurdly low price for them. Also, my tires right now have very square side walls



And no, I dont have adjustable rear control arms. Strict budget, spending all my money on school!
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:58 AM   #13
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I have a similar question/issue, refer to this recent post:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=944469

I have a zhp sedan, lowered on TC Kline suspension, with an APEX 18x9 ET with Michelin Super Sport 255/35-18. This is the stock tire size for the car, but on this wheel I also rub on the outside of the tire to the inside of the fender. I was rubbing on the fender lip - it is sort of a J profile on my car, and I had the leg squared-up and gained a few mm of clearance. Now I rub on the clip that holds the bumper cover to the fender. It is close in the front with this same fitment by no rubbing. I do have adjustable caster/camber in front and adjustable arms for camber in the rear, and running about 12.5" fender-to-center clearance.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:02 AM   #14
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Sorry - that is an 18 x 9 ET 42 wheel. My math says this will stick-out about 10.5mm further than the stock combination - and that doesn't account for the difference in shoulder between the regular OEM Pilot Sport and the Pilot Super Sport.

FYI - 18 x 9.5 ET45 sticks aout about 10mm even from my math. And 18 x 10 ET40 stick out about 17.6mm.
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I have a similar question/issue, refer to this recent post:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=944469

I have a zhp sedan, lowered on TC Kline suspension, with an APEX 18x9 ET with Michelin Super Sport 255/35-18. This is the stock tire size for the car, but on this wheel I also rub on the outside of the tire to the inside of the fender. I was rubbing on the fender lip - it is sort of a J profile on my car, and I had the leg squared-up and gained a few mm of clearance. Now I rub on the clip that holds the bumper cover to the fender. It is close in the front with this same fitment by no rubbing. I do have adjustable caster/camber in front and adjustable arms for camber in the rear, and running about 12.5" fender-to-center clearance.
bend the clip back a little, or run a 245 from now on and call it a day.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:06 AM   #16
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Here is mine running 19x9.5 et40 with 265's rear and 19x8.5 et35 with 235's front. I had to roll the fenders and only rub the wheel liner on big bumps or with people in the back on corners and i'm not very low at all.



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A little fender roll, negative camber, and a 255 width tire should suffice.

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Old 09-21-2012, 07:53 PM   #18
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OP your wheels now are perfectly fine and good looking. spend the money elsewhere
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