6 weeks til spring break :o

I gained 35 pounds in about six months. Most of it is muscle, but I put on some fat in the process.

Since July I've probably been lifting 4-5 times a week, most weeks probably only 4. The only supplement I've been taking is No-Explode, and occasionally a protein shake/protein bar.

My usual weight is around 205, now I'm at 240.

Pretty basic thread I guess, I'm just looking on advice to lose weight but maintain all the muscle I gained during the bulking...

I'm a 6'2" ectomorph hard-gainer and I'm expecting the weight will come off quick once I incorporate cardio into my workouts.

I'm on my last few servings of NoExplode and I'm probably going to either go back on Jack3d (no creatine), or no preworkout at all.

I had a friend that would do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach and sip BCAA's.... is that even necessary?

hey man lets see some pictures of you shirtless

Hard gainer and gained 35lbs lol.

Oh lord.

Originally Posted by Green_Shine

Hard gainer and gained 35lbs lol.

seriously. To me that's an easy gainer. I have literally stuffed my face to the point of almost puking and hardly gained anything.

Originally Posted by DylloS

seriously. To me that's an easy gainer. I have literally stuffed my face to the point of almost puking and hardly gained anything.

Remember when I got bashed for gaining 20 lbs in 3-4 months? Let's see how this thread goes.

Originally Posted by DME46

Remember when I got bashed for gaining 20 lbs in 3-4 months? Let's see how this thread goes.

hahah yes I remember.

There are a number of possibilities:
- You are not actually a hardgainer and, in fact, have great genetics.
- You got fat and are playing the "I'm bulking" card.
- You actually did gain 35lbs of mostly muscle but are not sharing the full list of what you are using.

A few notes on cutting:
- Creatine won't bloat you that much; it's not something you must absolutely avoid when dieting.
- Cardio on an empty stomach is a debated topic, but I'm an advocate of it. BCAAs will help avoid muscle loss but are probably not necessary unless you are dieting hard, like for a show.

At 6'2 240, you are not an ectomorph. Kushy is an ecto. You are an easy gainer.

Originally Posted by dwass325

There are a number of possibilities:
- You are not actually a hardgainer and, in fact, have great genetics.
- You got fat and are playing the "I'm bulking" card.
- You actually did gain 35lbs of mostly muscle but are not sharing the full list of what you are using.

A few notes on cutting:
- Creatine won't bloat you that much; it's not something you must absolutely avoid when dieting.
- Cardio on an empty stomach is a debated topic, but I'm an advocate of it. BCAAs will help avoid muscle loss but are probably not necessary unless you are dieting hard, like for a show.

This

Originally Posted by DILLA

At 6'2 240, you are not an ectomorph. Kushy is an ecto. You are an easy gainer.

And this.

I'm an easy gainer and not even I can get results like that without stuffing my face and gaining at least 20lbs of fat.


EDIT: OP, I see you've been at the weight you are at before... so your results actually don't surprise me as much as they did at first. What are you supplementing?

Originally Posted by Green_Shine

Hard gainer and gained 35lbs lol.

Originally Posted by dwass325

There are a number of possibilities:
- You are not actually a hardgainer and, in fact, have great genetics.
- You got fat and are playing the "I'm bulking" card.
- You actually did gain 35lbs of mostly muscle but are not sharing the full list of what you are using.

A few notes on cutting:
- Creatine won't bloat you that much; it's not something you must absolutely avoid when dieting.
- Cardio on an empty stomach is a debated topic, but I'm an advocate of it. BCAAs will help avoid muscle loss but are probably not necessary unless you are dieting hard, like for a show.

Things I may have left out and lifestyle changes.

I'm 27 now, but as a freshman in high school I was 115-120 pounds. I stayed pretty skinny until senior year and I started lifting weights.

I think I was around 160-170 when I was 21.

Back in 2008 when I had a serious GF I was eating a lot of **** food and got up to 225+, that was the heaviest I've ever been.

Came back down to 205.

Last year I was living with 3 other dudes in a party house and wasn't cooking as much as I am now.

In July I got my own place and I think this is where I started consuming a lot more food, a lot more meals.

Since July I've been drinking a lot more beer too, IPA's multiple times a week, and ordering pizza once or twice a week.

So I'm thinking with a huge increase in caloric intake and slowing of the metabolism I've finally went from a hard gainer to a fat bastard.

Originally Posted by DME46

EDIT: OP, I see you've been at the weight you are at before... so your results actually don't surprise me as much as they did at first. What are you supplementing?

Last year I was taking Jack3d because my friend recommended it. But I went back on NoExplode.

If I don't have time between classes I'll eat the TigersMilk protein bar, and after workouts I'll try to have this shake. It's really tasty.

bump.


So get off creatine?

I heard that it is better to run after lifting. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by sweetbro858

bump.


So get off creatine?

I heard that it is better to run after lifting. Thoughts?

It's not abslutely necessary to get off creatine. It will not be the difference between looking fat and looking shredded. If you were trying to compete and get your skin thin like plastic-wrap it might be an issue, but not for spring break.

And yes, it is better to do cardio after lifting. You will have used your glycogen and be more able to access fat as a fuel source, thus getting leaner.

Originally Posted by Green_Shine

Hard gainer and gained 35lbs lol.

I'm a hard gainer and this makes me laugh.

I went to my doc last friday for a routine check up.

My BMI is 30.... lmao... anything over 30 is considered "obese".

Forgot to mention in my OP that I drink a lot of soda.... anywhere from 3-4 /day. I quit soda yesterday

Originally Posted by sweetbro858

I went to my doc last friday for a routine check up.

My BMI is 30.... lmao... anything over 30 is considered "obese".

Forgot to mention in my OP that I drink a lot of soda.... anywhere from 3-4 /day. I quit soda yesterday

Bmi can be misleading. Any pics?

Originally Posted by sweetbro858

I went to my doc last friday for a routine check up.

My BMI is 30.... lmao... anything over 30 is considered "obese".

Forgot to mention in my OP that I drink a lot of soda.... anywhere from 3-4 /day. I quit soda yesterday

good thinking bro. Try substituting with water with lemon in it.

Originally Posted by DylloS

Bmi can be misleading. Any pics?

preferably in as little clothing as possible, so you know, we can give the best judgement

get off pb especially not natty pb, get off milk, only water. both are sugar and we all know sugar is the devil


get some quest bars, pricey but best profile, i don't even know wtf tigersmilk bars are

nanas are nothing but carbs , negative

better options for protein and creatine than ON i use trutein and allmax respectively

you don't need anything pre wo but food, bcaa during wo, i like intrabolic