E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Tuning & Tech > Suspension & Braking Forum by BimmerWorld

Suspension & Braking Forum by BimmerWorld
Have some questions about suspension or brake setups for your E46 BMW? Get all your answers here!
Sponsored by BimmerWorld

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-18-2013, 10:58 PM   #1
C00KIE M0NSTER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 19
My Ride: ZHP Coupe
Steering Problem - Steering Wheel will not Self-Center

I have an '04 ZHP with 160k miles. I've replaced the steering shaft guibo, lower control arms, FCABs, inner and outer tierods, all four strut mounts, all four struts/shocks and rear trailing arm bushings. I just had an alignment recently, and tires have less than 5k miles.

When I make a turn the steering wheel will not auto correct and return all the way to center like it should. I uploaded a video showing what it does. Any idea what it could be? I did a little searching and I'm thinking maybe it's the actual steering rack, the power steering pump, or steering shaft u-joint??

Thanks for any help.

__________________
<- C is for Cookie ->
'04 ZHP Coupe 6spd

\ - U ///Mirin? - /

Last edited by C00KIE M0NSTER; 12-18-2013 at 11:04 PM.
C00KIE M0NSTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Ads by Google

Guests, get your FREE E46Fanatics.com membership to remove this ad.
Old 12-19-2013, 07:36 AM   #2
mr ilia
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Golden Horseshoe
Posts: 298
My Ride: 04 BMW 325ci 5spd
steering shaft guibo - this part is to tight in the steering shaft and creating unnecessary tension to shaft...likely pushing on to the steering rack to mach and making pinion gears inside the rack hart to turn....

Loose your steering u-joint, jerk it up and down a little and tighten back the bolts.

EDIT: post the results once done.
__________________

Last edited by mr ilia; 12-19-2013 at 07:36 AM.
mr ilia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2013, 05:48 PM   #3
Mango
A full five stars, son
 
Mango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,920
My Ride: M54B30
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr ilia View Post
steering shaft guibo - this part is to tight in the steering shaft and creating unnecessary tension to shaft...likely pushing on to the steering rack to mach and making pinion gears inside the rack hart to turn....

Loose your steering u-joint, jerk it up and down a little and tighten back the bolts.

EDIT: post the results once done.
eh the coupler would just decrease responsiveness. it wont affect outright centering issues. Its hard to tell from the video, but if you are convinced your rack isnt centering it could be the rack or a caster issue. is your caster within spec? Are your strut bearings installed correctly making sure they can rotate?

The coupler should be done regardless but dont expect any miracles replacing just that.

It's a common misconception that the coupler causes the car to tramline, wander, etc. Coupler wont affect the way the front steering performs/behaves but it can affect the way input is transmitted by YOU the user turning the steering wheel to the front wheels (response)

GL
__________________
A lifetime free of problems if you follow my guides
Cooling | Maintenance | Suspension | Vacuum | Supreme Reliability | Details

OVER A MILLION VIEWS
Mango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2013, 08:05 AM   #4
mr ilia
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Golden Horseshoe
Posts: 298
My Ride: 04 BMW 325ci 5spd
I just realized you also changed strut mounts. There is big washer that must be installed between the spring top hat and the strut bearing. Missing or damaged washer will prevent steering wheel to self center, steering may also feel heavy.
__________________
mr ilia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2013, 03:14 PM   #5
C00KIE M0NSTER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 19
My Ride: ZHP Coupe
Mango, I replaced the steering coupler within last 5k miles. The strut bearings are new also, and Ilia I made sure to install that washer with the new strut bearings.

My caster was out of spec before my alignment, but they brought it back into spec, only thing that is out of spec with alignment is front left camber.
__________________
<- C is for Cookie ->
'04 ZHP Coupe 6spd

\ - U ///Mirin? - /
C00KIE M0NSTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2013, 03:32 PM   #6
Bavaryan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The center part of Florida with no ocean.
Posts: 709
My Ride: 330i w/out park.
Steering Problem - Steering Wheel will not Self-Center

Disconnect the tie rods and make sure each steering knuckle assembly has full and free movement.

Has it ever been in a wreck?

Was not able to watch video.


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
__________________
Bavaryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2013, 10:08 PM   #7
C00KIE M0NSTER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 19
My Ride: ZHP Coupe
It has not been in a wreck to my knowledge, and doesn't show any signs of it. When I replaced the tie rods, there was some power steering fluid inside the driver side dust boot where the inner tie rod connects to the steering rack. It didn't continue to leak however.
__________________
<- C is for Cookie ->
'04 ZHP Coupe 6spd

\ - U ///Mirin? - /
C00KIE M0NSTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 08:34 AM   #8
mr ilia
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Golden Horseshoe
Posts: 298
My Ride: 04 BMW 325ci 5spd
Quote:
Originally Posted by C00KIE M0NSTER View Post
It has not been in a wreck to my knowledge, and doesn't show any signs of it. When I replaced the tie rods, there was some power steering fluid inside the driver side dust boot where the inner tie rod connects to the steering rack. It didn't continue to leak however.
The fluid in the boot is a sign of leaking steering rack.
It is however has nothing to do with your issue.
__________________
mr ilia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 04:21 PM   #9
e46_pt
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: PT
Posts: 44
My Ride: e46
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr ilia View Post
The fluid in the boot is a sign of leaking steering rack.
It is however has nothing to do with your issue.
Was this problem solved?
e46_pt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use