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Old 03-15-2012, 05:26 PM   #1
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Continental DWS or Micheline Pilot Sports A/S?

Having tramlining problems with new nexen tires i got. Intially didn't think it was tires, but had front suspension checked by 2 shops, said its in great condition. Had alignment checked, all is fine. So now im going to switch the tires..... i just don't know which brand to choose.

A cousin of mine had the same issue and switched to Continental extreme's from bridgestones and the problem went away. I want to get all seasons so my two choices are.........

Continental DWS - Listed on tirerack for about 550.

Micheline Pilot Sport - Listed for about 750.

Don't care about road noise, just want tramining to dissapear. Its not terrible with the nexens, but does it just enough to be annoying.

Secondary question - Im running style 44's, 17 x 8. 225/45/17 all around. Although it looks good, id like to go a bit wider on rear tires. 245/40/17. Any issues with this as well? Cars a 1999 328i sedan. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 03-15-2012, 05:50 PM   #2
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Well first off the Micheline Pilot Sports are summer performance tires and the Continental DWS are all season. I actually looked into buying the DWS last week to replace the Pirelli PZero Neros on my X3, which I loved unfortunately they only lasted a little over 15,000 miles which I expected due to the all wheel drive system and negative camber from the H&R sport suspension. As of last week there was a nation wide backorder for the DWS so I opted out with the Goodyear Eagle GTs which are all season and they are pretty reasonable in price.
As for the 245/40/17s on your style 44's I think that the tred width will be too large. Don't quote me on that but just to be sure call your local tire installer and they will let you know your max size. you should probably go with 235/45/17.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:56 PM   #3
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Sorry i meant the pilot sport A/S. It says on tirerack they are all seasons. As for the dws, on tirerack it says they have them in stock, although who knows how accurate that is.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:09 PM   #4
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My wife's wagon has the DWS and I like them. Decent ride, nice and quiet and no tramlining with staggered 235f/265r
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:17 PM   #5
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When I was trying to order the dws they told me it could be over a month before they get them in stock but if they are in stock they would be a good buy I did some research on them and I like the results. I had the pilot sport all seasons 2 years ago and I hated them. Squealed when taking the slightest turn sending pedestrians running away in fear. They also had terrible traction, but they could have changed their design lately who knows
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:43 PM   #6
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DWS--easy on the wallet, and quite the performer
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:11 AM   #7
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Just had some DWS put on, size 225/45/17, and I think they are way too soft. I came from the ContExtreme DW, same size, which were much more stiff and made the car feel much sportier.

That might not matter to you though. Just an FYI.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:27 PM   #8
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If you haven't already ordered I would take a look at the Goodyear GTs I just had them installed yesterday and so far I am extremely impressed with the grip characteristics not to mention they are good looking. The price was NICE too.
Heres a picture of them on my 19s (curb rash courtesy of the City of Philadelphia)
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:23 PM   #9
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I have dws on my tiburon. I like them, but they pick up rocks really bad, which resulted in some chiping on the wheels i had.
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:10 PM   #10
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DWS @ 225x45x17. Tire pressure F=37 R=39 cold is just perfect for me. 40 psi is good for handling but bit jarring on bumpy roads. It is very good in the rain too.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:17 PM   #11
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I have experience with both Conti's and Mich P/S's.

All I can say is that Conti's get VERY noisy at 15,000 miles or so, and worse thereafter.

All 3 of my cars run Mich P/S's - I'd buy them again. More pricey than others, but worth it, IMO
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:21 PM   #12
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I bought the DWS's because i go snowboarding a lot despite living in socal. They work amazing for me in light snow, but i haven't tried them in heavy snow. Great in rain and good in the dry but the sidewalls are soft so they aren't as sporty as the Michelins. I have 225/45/17 on my stock style 44's for DD and it rides smooth, fairly quiet, and have put 10K on them with little to no wear; the S in the tread is still showing. My car is lowered a lot but with relatively stock camber amounts around 1.x front and rear, and they have lasted quite well so far.

My dad has the pilot sport a/s plus on his e60 and the tread is dry rotting on the side of the tread despite the tires only being under 2 years old. The front and rear tires were purchased 6 months apart from each other, which concerns me that it was not just a defective batch but quality going south on Michelin tires. He also had one blow out on the freeway, so they haven't been the most dependable tires from what i've seen. They are sportier but i decided against the michelins due to my dad's experience.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:04 AM   #13
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Between the two, the Pilot Sport A/S Plus has better dry grip and faster steering response for a sportier feel. The Continental Extreme Contact DWS has an advantage in snow traction and a bit softer ride than the Sport A/S Plus.

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:46 PM   #14
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The DWS is a tire for grandmas and average family sedans. The E46 may be old but it's not pig- as Gary said the Pilot Sport A/S is a much more satisfying if you ever dare drive 5 over, or enjoy spirited driving on occasion.
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