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Old 03-17-2012, 11:54 AM   #21
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No answer to question...but as until bans are lifted on embryonic/cell research we won't have the facts. I'd be more towards the aging process...I don't wanna be 130 years old if I can't stand up and piss on my own.

And yes HGH will drastically put in work to your aging and allow you to look 35 @ 49 years of age. Or if your LL Cool J, the same for the past 30 years
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:59 PM   #22
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Most of the latest data I read about was based on human telomere length.

Outside of that, if you want to think about "treating the symptoms", you can address heard disease and cancer. But that's not what's capping human's life per se....
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #23
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I think by age 60, I would have pretty much done it all in life. Hookers & blow, driven fast cars, etc.

Life, I would assume, would get pretty boring after 65 or so....like what duz one look forward to ? Their morning crunch? Going to the hearing aid store for new batteries? F it. Who wants to live beyond 90yrs of age after centering their attentions on the previous 10-15yrs on bowel movements? At age 65-70,........I think I'd rather plunge over a mountain road barrier at 120 km/per/hr & be hurled 500 meters downwards & die in a spectacular fiery car crash .

(Bipolar moment done. Will take my medication now.)


EDIT: above scenario only if my dick forever goes limp & Viagra doesn't work, as I could see myself being a horny, grumpy, drunken zot 85 yr old man, chasing all the hotty caretaker nurses at the "home".
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I think by age 60, I would have pretty much done it all in life. Hookers & blow, driven fast cars, etc.

Life, I would assume, would get pretty boring after 65 or so....like what duz one look forward to ? Their morning crunch? Going to the hearing aid store for new batteries? F it. Who wants to live beyond 90yrs of age after centering their attentions on the previous 10-15yrs on bowel movements? At age 65-70,........I think I'd rather plunge over a mountain road barrier at 120 km/per/hr & be hurled 500 meters downwards & die in a spectacular fiery car crash .

(Bipolar moment done. Will take my medication now.)


EDIT: above scenario only if my dick forever goes limp & Viagra doesn't work, as I could see myself being a horny, grumpy, drunken zot 85 yr old man, chasing all the hotty caretaker nurses at the "home".
You're an extremely selfish person. When I'm 65 I'll be looking forward to spoiling my grand kids.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:29 PM   #25
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I've seen a documentary where they said aging is a disease and will be curable in the foreseeing future.
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why does there have to be a limit? That being said... who wants to live forever?
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more illegal?

JonJon thinks we should all be carrying at least 5 deadly weapons from what I've read.
I love how far this has gone... 5 weapons a piece? All because he believes that you should carry a weapon?

Next it'll be 1 gun, 3 knives, 14 mags of ammo, and a unicorn in the trunk, just in case...
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I've got the gun and two knives. I never even thought about a unicorn though!
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They are a must for South Central Chicago... Sh!t goes down... You gotta get up.
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They are a must for South Central Chicago... Sh!t goes down... You gotta get up.
well, I keep a virgin unicorn to use its blood and tears for BMW oil. It usually lives in the garage, though. I never even thought to keep it in the car for self defense
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why does there have to be a limit? That being said... who wants to live forever?




But more realistically, we'll be living 60-70 years in a 30 year old body in the not too distant future. Imagine aging normally to a point, living an extended period in that body, and then aging normally again once you hit 150 years old. As soon as the aging process is controlled there will be no upper limit for the human body.

If that doesn't pan out, and if Ray Kurtzweil is right (and his track record is nothing short of amazing), then 'we' could exist somewhere on a computer indefinitely.
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well, I keep a virgin unicorn to use its blood and tears for BMW oil. It usually lives in the garage, though. I never even thought to keep it in the car for self defense
I hear the tears actually add 20 WHP, and keep brake dust off your wheels... I gotta get me a virgin unicorn... I just have one that was rode hard and put away wet.
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I can never remember if it's virgin tears and unicorn blood, or unicorn tears and virgin blood. So I just got a virgin unicorn to cover both ends.
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Honestly I think its all genes, in your genetics. My great grandmother lived to be 95yrs old. But her daughter passed at 45yrs. old. However my grandma walked every day. I think the medicine made her slow down.

"My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was sixty. She's ninety-seven now, and we don't know where the hell she is."

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And in modern times, people still believe in this kind of bs.

OP, average life expectancy will reach its max around 120-130 years when:

1. Cardiac arrest is better understood and preventative medicine is found.
2. Cure for cancer is found.

The rest of the health problems is of minute importance compared to these two, and only affects a fraction of the population as the primary cause of death.
1) It is very well understood right now. However, the population is kept largely uneducated about this disease, unmotivated about taking the steps to prevent it, and the food supply continues to be riddled with low nutrient, chemically altered, and processed poison. Very few people will chose the more expensive, less tasty, and more difficult to prepare healthy alternatives.

2) The "cure" exists and its not chemo, its your food to begin with. The multibillion dollar cancer industry also has no intention of revealing extremely cheap unpatentable emergency treatment solutions such as Hydrogen Peroxide or Dichloroacetic acid.

The real question is when human greed will find an alternative source to satisfy its monetary thirst.

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Most of the latest data I read about was based on human telomere length.

Outside of that, if you want to think about "treating the symptoms", you can address heard disease and cancer. But that's not what's capping human's life per se....
This is spot on. In terms of a natural life expectancy ceiling, telomeres are a huge limiting factor. The more cells reproduce, the more they do so inconsistently and inaccurately. This is one of the reasons your body will ultimately succumb to cancer, disease, and just about all else related to aging.

It is very possible to extend the length of telomeres in certain human cells by using medicine and activating a process called telomerase. At this stage, we would be surpassing natural life expectancy limits, and using scientific knowledge to prolong life artificially.

Aubrey de Grey, although significantly nutty in appearance and some aspects of his thinking, mentions several important per-requisites to essentially eternalizing human life. Ethical issues aside, the latter part of this century will have the scientific capabilities to essentially maintain life indefinitely (IE consciousness via a continuing replacement or augmentation of biological components).
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Ethical issues aside, the latter part of this century will have the scientific capabilities to essentially maintain life indefinitely (IE consciousness via a continuing replacement or augmentation of biological components).
I'd be willing to be we'll be there in the next 35 years.
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Imagine the murder rates at that point. You would have to contol conception too. Like when rat plauges strike,the population outgrows the resources for life and they die from starvation or cannibalism.
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Imagine the murder rates at that point. You would have to contol conception too. Like when rat plauges strike,the population outgrows the resources for life and they die from starvation or cannibalism.
we'd better find a way to make interplanetary colonization cost-effective pretty damn quick, then.
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I'd be willing to be we'll be there in the next 35 years.
That would be awesome.
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