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Old 05-03-2017, 07:48 AM   #1
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68% of Murders in 2% of our Counties

Anyone surprised by this?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/26...-counties.html
US murders concentrated in 5 percent of counties
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The Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) said in a new report that there is a “geographical concentration” of murders, with 68 percent of killings occurring in just 5 percent of the nation’s counties. The homicides also tend to be concentrated to relatively small pockets of those counties, the report said.

“It is stunning how concentrated murders are in the U.S.,” John Lott, president of the CPRC said to Fox News. “And we show that even within these counties, with all these high rates, murders are very concentrated.”

“These high [rate] counties have very large areas where there are no murders.”

In 2014, the U.S. murder rate was 4.4 per 100,000 people, according to the data of the report. If the deadliest 5 percent of the counties were removed, the U.S. murder rate would be 2.56 per 100,000 people, the report showed.

“While many factors explain these concentrated murders, it is also striking that the counties with zero murders are the counties with by far the highest gun ownership rates,” Lott said.


Notice any trends?
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:22 AM   #2
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Anyone surprised by this?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/26...-counties.html
US murders concentrated in 5 percent of counties




Notice any trends?
Can someone overlay this map with the 2016 electoral college vote map?
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:25 AM   #3
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I wonder how much of the red is:

1. Democrat controlled
2. Areas "impossible" to get guns
3. "Diverse"
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lol, that map is racist.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:43 AM   #5
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I would be curious to know what the population breakdown in those counties are (as a percentage of the total population of the US). Saying "five percent" of counties isn't all that useful if those counties hold 30 percent of the population.
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I wonder how much of the red is:

1. Democrat controlled
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3. "Diverse"
1.) Irrelevant
2.) Probably irrelevant, apparently people have them anyway also, killing people is also illegal.
3.) Definitely

To answer your question though, I'm not even a little bit surprised.

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1.) Irrelevant
2.) Probably irrelevant, apparently people have them anyway also, killing people is also illegal.
3.) Definitely

To answer your question though, I'm not even a little bit surprised.
#2 is relevant because we do not know how many of the people that were killed were not able to protect themselves, since they were following the law.
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#2 is also incredibly relevant in that it shows that gun control laws do nothing
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this is inconvenient for me. source is invalid and there are a lot of variables that weren't taken into effect.
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#2 is also incredibly relevant in that it shows that gun control laws do nothing
And one has to note the final sentence that the counties with the lowest murder rates also had the highest gun ownership rates. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

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Does this include suicide? If so, Seattle makes sense

or maybe it was post Pats/Hawks superbowl
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And one has to note the final sentence that the counties with the lowest murder rates also had the highest gun ownership rates. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.
If anything it neuters the talking point that "more guns --> more murders".
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If anything it neuters the talking point that "more guns --> more murders".
Only morons believe that.
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Only liberals believe that.
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#2 is relevant because we do not know how many of the people that were killed were not able to protect themselves, since they were following the law.
They also don't take into account the number of people who have been shot with their own carry weapon.

If we're going that far down the rabbit hole then why not.

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#2 is also incredibly relevant in that it shows that gun control laws do nothing
I thought this was a given. As a firearm owner and carry permit holder, I find that the gun control laws in MY STATE are perfectly adequate for what I think they should be. In your state, and others, they are ridiculous.
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Here's a population density map. It's too bad the creator of the map didn't do murders per capita.

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Now do a gun ownership heat map, prepare for embarrassment
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Now do a gun ownership heat map, prepare for embarrassment
What embarrassment? We all know it's true.
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But those statistics would tend to support the case for responsible gun ownership.

So, no, the MSM will NOT be publishing them.
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They also don't take into account the number of people who have been shot with their own carry weapon.

If we're going that far down the rabbit hole then why not.
Because shooting yourself with your gun on accident isn't Murder or homocide.

"said in a new report that there is a “geographical concentration” of murders, with 68 percent of killings occurring in just 5 percent of the nation’s counties. The homicides also tend to be concentrated to relatively small pockets of those counties, the report said."
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