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Old 10-16-2016, 12:46 PM   #1
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Take the money!!

Foreign money into US campaign, pretty sure that's illegal

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11915
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Re: Foreign registered agents

From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com
To: re47@hillaryclinton.com
Date: 2015-04-17 01:38
Subject: Re: Foreign registered agents


Take the money!!

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On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Robby Mook <re47@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:

Marc made a convincing case to me this am that these sorts of restrictions
don't really get you anything...that Obama actually got judged MORE harshly
as a result. He convinced me. So...in a complete U-turn, I'm ok just
taking the money and dealing with any attacks.
Are you guys ok with that?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dennis Cheng <dcheng@hillaryclinton.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: Foreign registered agents
To: Marc Elias <melias@hillaryclinton.com>, Robby Mook <
re47@hillaryclinton.com>
Cc: Karuna Seshasai <kseshasai@hillaryclinton.com>, Huma Abedin <
ha16@hillaryclinton.com>, Jesse Ferguson <jferguson@hillaryclinton.com>,
Kristina Schake <kschake@hillaryclinton.com>, Tony Carrk <
tcarrk@hillaryclinton.com>, Rebecca Leal <rleal@hillaryclinton.com>,
Nicholas Pancrazio <npancrazio@hillaryclinton.com>, Beth Jones <
bjones@hillaryclinton.com>, John Podesta <jp66@hillaryclinton.com>


Hi all – we really need to make a final decision on this. We’re getting to
the point of no return…

*From:* Marc Elias [mailto:melias@hillaryclinton.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:38 AM
*To:* Robby Mook
*Cc:* Dennis Cheng; Karuna Seshasai; Huma Abedin; Jesse Ferguson; Kristina
Schake; Tony Carrk; Rebecca Leal; Nicholas Pancrazio; Beth Jones; John
Podesta

*Subject:* Re: Foreign registered agents


If we do it case by case, then it will be subjective. We would look at who
the donor is and what foreign entity they are registered for. In judging
whether to take the money, we would consider the relationship between that
country and the United States, its relationship to the State Department
during Hillary's time as Secretary, and its relationship, if any, to the
Foundation. In judging the individual, we would look at their history of
support for political candidates generally and Hillary's past campaigns
specifically.

Put simply, we would use the same criteria we use for lobbyists, except
with a somewhat more stringent screen.

As a legal matter, I am not saying we have to do this - we can decide to
simply ban foreign registrants entirely. I'm just offering this up as a
middle ground.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Robby Mook <re47@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:

Where do we draw the line though?

On Apr 15, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Marc Elias <melias@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:

Responding to all on this. I was not on the call this morning, but I lean
away from a bright line rule here. It seems odd to say that someone who
represents Alberta, Canada can't give, but a lobbyist for Phillip Morris
can.
Just as we vet lobbyists case by case, I would do the same with
FARA. While this may lead to a large number of FARA registrants being
denied, it would not be a flat our ban. A total ban feels arbitrary and
will engender the same eye-rolling and ill will that it did for Obama.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Dennis Cheng <dcheng@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Hi all – we do need to make a decision on this ASAP as our friends who
happen to be registered with FARA are already donating and raising.

I do want to push back a bit (it’s my job!): I feel like we are leaving a
good amount of money on the table (both for primary and general, and then
DNC and state parties)… and how do we explain to people that we’ll take
money from a corporate lobbyist but not them; that the Foundation takes $
from foreign govts but we now won’t.


Either way, we need to make a decision soon.
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Because there can never be enough Clinton email threads started by AoG
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Because there can never be enough Clinton email threads started by AoG
Put a poultice on that butt hurt.
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Put a poultice on that butt hurt.
Zero butts were harmed in the creation of this thread.

Thinking AoG deserves his own sub forum under PT where he can make a new thread for every article read or thought he has about Hillary.
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Obviously they don't know what "spam" emailings are.

There's a difference between that and internal discussions begging to "take the money!" from foreign donors.
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Seriously? Do you get paid by the mods for every equivalency post you make? If so, it must be a higher rate per GOP bash than per Dem bash.

In any event, as swordsman already pointed out, this is hardly equivalent.
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Seriously? Do you get paid by the mods for every equivalency post you make? If so, it must be a higher rate per GOP bash than per Dem bash.
God, it's too easy

evolved ombudsman and the white knight of the internet on the case.



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(I am aware of the difference in the links, but bait is bait)
Maybe I'm getting paid too...
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So, yeah this is illegal
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I'm getting paid by VD on the side to moderate in his absence on Sundays since to him Sunday is the Sabbath day and he would rather take a break from meddling on this forum. With that said, you two need to cool it before I start issuing infractions. Consider this your warning.
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So, yeah this is illegal
So, proof that slick hilly took foreign dollars?
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So, proof that slick hilly took foreign dollars?
Or at least solicited, also illegal.
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Or at least solicited, also illegal.
A hacked email chain without the person being solicited included is proof of solicitation?
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A hacked email chain without the person being solicited included is proof of solicitation?
Their intent is well documented, we care about intent now right? You can admit it, these people are absolutely corrupt.
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Their intent is well documented, we care about intent now right? You can admit it, these people are absolutely corrupt.
I'm simply asking a question about criminality. Corruption is clear.... We don't need another thread to show that.
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I'm simply asking a question about criminality. Corruption is clear.... We don't need another thread to show that.
This would be corroborating evidence. You'd need proof of some sort of transfer of funds or solicitation of the same to have solid charges. I'm sure the noble FBI will get right on that!
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I'm not saying Clinton is innocent. But this does muddy the water of using Wikileaks as corruption gospel:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...DB&via=FB_Page
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