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Old 04-01-2012, 10:34 AM   #201
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This guy is obviously biased, but still a "witness" to the injuries:

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/new...erman-03302012
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"I saw George. He was banged up. His head had two big bandages, that weren't flat, had a bump on them," the neighbor, who did not want to be identified, said.

He described where the injuries were.

"I seen him have a big bandage on his nose and his nose swollen. On the side, where his eyes were at, it was swollen," he said.

He points out exactly where on a picture.

"I seen the bandage right here, and this side of his nose and this side of his nose was swollen.

The surveillance video was released by Sanford police of Zimmerman when he was brought in for questioning after the shooting. Bruises and bandages aren't visible, but you can see an officer looking at the back of his head.

"Once you get into a fight you don't show bruises that day, it shows the next day," he said.

The neighbor says Zimmerman had to have acted in self-defense.

"I think something happened that night where he had to defend himself," the neighbor said.

He says that the voice heard screaming on the 911 call is that of George Zimmerman.

"I hear his voice every single day, I talk to him every single day," he said.
Hope Spike Lee doesn't tweet his address too. I found a picture of him, though, for identification purposes...

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Old 04-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #202
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #203
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Common knowledge but worth pointing out

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Once you get into a fight you don't show bruises that day, it shows the next day," he said.
Having been in my fair share of fights and taking a beating on more than one occasion, this is true. Your injuries will show through in the days following, when your skin is bruising and healing. Also, not all injuries are visible and on the "skin". Take a bottle or two to your head and you'll understand what I mean.

I hope Zim took good pics and documented his injuries. Being that said... media like everything else is focusing on his injuries too much.
Sure, they add shock value and "justification" to the minds of people not well versed in law. Injuries don't have to be present in order justify self defense
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #204
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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ific-certainty

So if Trayvon was beating Zimmerman then why was Trayvon the one screaming? JonJon get in here and explain to us the specifics of why the voice analysis experts are wrong.

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:44 AM   #205
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So if Trayvon was beating Zimmerman then why was Trayvon the one screaming? JonJon get in here and explain to us the specifics of why the voice analysis experts are wrong.

Voice expert didn't conclude anything. 48% chance? You need Z to scream again...but even if there isn't a match it doesn't prove anything
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So if Trayvon was beating Zimmerman then why was Trayvon the one screaming? JonJon get in here and explain to us the specifics of why the voice analysis experts are wrong.

lol @ 48%

48% match, which means jack squat. More criminal reporting. Who paid for the study to be done anyway?
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So if Trayvon was beating Zimmerman then why was Trayvon the one screaming? JonJon get in here and explain to us the specifics of why the voice analysis experts are wrong.

All that says is that there's a 50% chance its Zimmerman and that they know it isn't martin. FFS even his dad said it wasn't his voice in the recording, backed up by eyewitness statement.
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Old 04-01-2012, 01:03 PM   #208
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So if Trayvon was beating Zimmerman then why was Trayvon the one screaming? JonJon get in here and explain to us the specifics of why the voice analysis experts are wrong.

Easy, they are wrong. Even Trayvons dad said it wasn't him screaming
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I see this in boxing all the time...hold on, wait a minute, the bruises show up before the fight is over.
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I see this in boxing all the time...hold on, wait a minute, the bruises show up before the fight is over.


You're comparing professional fighters going 3 minute rounds throwing consistent blows to the same areas causing trauma and blood vessels bursting on the spot/swelling, to a fight that probably lasted 30 seconds to a minute.

You bang your leg on a table... the bruise appears instantly?
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Old 04-01-2012, 01:57 PM   #211
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During my trouble youth the first punch in a fight went to the middle of the face to hopefuly swell both eyes and making it an easy fight. The eyes swolled in just seconds. Boxers don't have magical legendary powers capable of causing damage just because they are boxers, they are just ordinary people like anyone else.

This incident is extremely fvcked up because it fvcks anyone who is carrying legally and knows how to fall the law regarding conceal carry.
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During my trouble youth the first punch in a fight went to the middle of the face to hopefuly swell both eyes and making it an easy fight. The eyes swolled in just seconds. Boxers don't have magical legendary powers capable of causing damage just because they are boxers, they are just ordinary people like anyone else.

This incident is extremely fvcked up because it fvcks anyone who is carrying legally and knows how to fall the law regarding conceal carry.
Yeah, because ordinary people throw punches to make a living.

I see what you're saying, but a 30 second fight isn't going to result in immediate bruising/swelling unless the kid is a pro. I doubt he landed many punches to the face, where the damage would be greater and show more quickly.
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Back home kids go to the sports club to learn the basics of boxing which are stance and cover. Those are truly the most difficult aspect of boxing. Every time someone throws a punch they naturally lower the guard hand for balance. The foot work is more important because it let the boxer evade and stay within balance to throw a punch. Anyone can learn those skills if they put the time and energy to do so. I acknowledge some people have better skills, like speed, strength, resilience, and stamina making them better than others. No single boxer possesses all those skills, but some have a nice combination that makes them successful.

I have seen people get destroyed during a street fight with just one punch in the middle of the face. Their face swelled shutting both eyes within 5-10 seconds. At that point it was really kind of abusive and unnecessary to keep fighting.
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So I've been under a rock the past few weeks..this is crazy, should Bill Bellichick be considered armed and dangerous also?
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well if he rolled through a neighborhood where fat , white , old , angry looking guys were spotted numerous times committing robberies and other crimes then ,yes , i would consider him suspicious.
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well if he rolled through a neighborhood where fat , white , old , angry looking guys were spotted numerous times committing robberies and other crimes then ,yes , i would consider him suspicious.
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So Zimmerman was in a fight for his life, and was getting his ass kicked so bad that he thought he was going to die?

Hours later, the police station video shows he doesn't have a scratch on him. Looks like a life or death struggle to me.

You people are really buying Zimmerman's lies?
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You mean the kid who was tried, convicted, and executed by George Zimmerman on a FL street?
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