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Old 03-29-2012, 12:39 PM   #61
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ftr under the picture I posted was a tweet from Trayvon telling someone to shoot someone. Guess you're all into the middle finger though.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:57 PM   #62
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I see this a few ways. The defense is relying heavily on the 911 calls, and the testimony from Zimm. The problem with the testimony, and the eye witness accounts, is that the witness states the first visual of Treyvon they got, was of him on his stomach, Zimmerman straddling him and Treyvon was dead.

Zimmerman's story was that he was jumped, over powered, and beaten by Treyvon... Yea, I doubt that. On his 911 call, Zimm asked the 911 operator if the police could call him, and he will instruct them where he is. Pretty suspicious. Not only that, Zimmerman was looking for action. He stated in his call, that they have had break ins, and that "these a$$holes always get away". He also said that Treyvon could be on drugs or there is something wrong with him.

I think the beating was fabricated, Zimmerman was out for blood and to become a hero of the neighborhood watch, and Treyvon was the target.
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I think him assuming martin was a thug instead of a kid just walking to the store is a bit racist and what peaked his interest.
Except that we know Zimmerman mentors black kids, lives willingly in a racially diverse neighborhood and thus far no one who knows him has come forth with even an anecdote about him acting or thinking as a racist. We also know that the area has been impacted by crime so Zimmerman was on alert.

Zimmerman's interest was peaked by Martin's behavior, as he described in the 911 call. Would Zimmerman have responded the same way if the person he saw wearing a hoodie and behaving oddly were a Hispanic person? Or a white person? I don't know. But apparently you do know. Which is absolutely amazing to me.

If Martin had been white or Hispanic or Asian, this would not be a story at all, and the worst public charge against Zimmerman would be that he was stupid or reckless or careless and perhaps guilty of a crime depending on adjudication of the facts. But because Martin was black, racism absolutley MUST be the reason. I just don't see how people get there when there is no evidence - even circumstantial - that Zimmerman is a racist.

I understand how you and others "think" that is what motivated Zimmerman. I think that too depending on the circumstances. But when this situation started to boil, I think we all have a duty to chill and act rationally. Lair and others here insist on screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. I think that is reckless and irresponsible, not to mention foolish when they cannot possibly "know" why Zimmerman acted that way. And Obama is in that same reckless group - even more so given his authority and responsibility to US citizens.
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Why Zimmerman acted is only a small part of this. The result of his actions is far more important: a dead, unarmed minor. On top of that, you have the completely incompetence bordering on malfeasance by the police.
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Why Zimmerman acted is only a small part of this. The result of his actions is far more important: a dead, unarmed minor. On top of that, you have the completely incompetence bordering on malfeasance by the police.
Not true at all! The reason everyone is marching in Sanford or in DC or here in Atlanta is precisely because of the "why" - and that is because they "know" he is a racist.

Does anyone think that if Zimmerman was black, this would be a story? No, but because he is "white Hispanic" (got to get the whitey part in there!) this situation is an automatic national crisis.

If Zimmerman had racist posts on his Facebook, or believable witnesses came forth saying they had seen him act or even talk as a racist, or some other legitimate evidence to that effect, then all of the marches would be justified.
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Except that we know Zimmerman mentors black kids, lives willingly in a racially diverse neighborhood and thus far no one who knows him has come forth with even an anecdote about him acting or thinking as a racist.
Except Zimmeran called Martin a Fvckin COON while chasing him. There mentors and coaches who are racist you know.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:23 PM   #68
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Except Zimmeran called Martin a Fvckin COON while chasing him. There mentors and coaches who are racist you know.
I honestly didn't hear that anywhere in the audio. Did you? Or are you just repeating what the news is stating? Maybe I'm missing it.
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Not true at all! The reason everyone is marching in Sanford or in DC or here in Atlanta is precisely because of the "why" - and that is because they "know" he is a racist.
Odds are his prejudices played a role in his actions. Odds are Martin's skin color played a role in how the police department evaluated the situation. Do you think that these things have nothing to do with the case. For me, however, it's one small part of the big picture. An unarmed minor is dead and no one is even under investigation.

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Does anyone think that if Zimmerman was black, this would be a story? No, but because he is "white Hispanic" (got to get the whitey part in there!) this situation is an automatic national crisis.
You wouldn't be up in arms if he wasn't white. So there you go. Six of one...

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If Zimmerman had racist posts on his Facebook, or believable witnesses came forth saying they had seen him act or even talk as a racist, or some other legitimate evidence to that effect, then all of the marches would be justified.
We should require all our racists to carry their racism on their sleeve so that we can get them in trouble when needed.
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That wasn't immediately after. If you read the police report, Zimmerman was placed into the back of a squad car and given first aid by SFD at the scene.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf
And ABC news CONTINUES to use the outdated school photo/mug shots rather than the more realistic photos that have emerged....
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LOL! Good one.

I'd say 12 light punches or 6 really hard ones. Happy now?

It's a ridiculous question to ask, since all you know full well that an answer can't be given.


<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%">*******><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by 'busa
Should I shoot anyone whom I'm losing a fight against because the end result might be that I become unconscious and they might curb stomp me?
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So yes? I should shoot anyone that gets the upper hand in a fight with me?
I'll play your game. What about if someone is like Mike tyson, where 1 punch is deadly, vs Spike Lee, where 100 punches wouldn't be deadly?
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:34 PM   #74
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I'll play your game. What about if someone is like Mike tyson, where 1 punch is deadly, vs Spike Lee, where 100 punches wouldn't be deadly?
you'll never win....i read his posts on here and they just confirm what i believed about him. leave it alone.
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I see this a few ways. The defense is relying heavily on the 911 calls, and the testimony from Zimm. The problem with the testimony, and the eye witness accounts, is that the witness states the first visual of Treyvon they got, was of him on his stomach, Zimmerman straddling him and Treyvon was dead.

Zimmerman's story was that he was jumped, over powered, and beaten by Treyvon... Yea, I doubt that. On his 911 call, Zimm asked the 911 operator if the police could call him, and he will instruct them where he is. Pretty suspicious. Not only that, Zimmerman was looking for action. He stated in his call, that they have had break ins, and that "these a$$holes always get away". He also said that Treyvon could be on drugs or there is something wrong with him.

I think the beating was fabricated, Zimmerman was out for blood and to become a hero of the neighborhood watch, and Treyvon was the target.
Probably the single dumbest post in all of these threads. Out for blood? Thats why he called the cops and took a beating before he shot Martin? You must be on skittles or something.
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Odds are his prejudices played a role in his actions. Odds are Martin's skin color played a role in how the police department evaluated the situation. Do you think that these things have nothing to do with the case. For me, however, it's one small part of the big picture. An unarmed minor is dead and no one is even under investigation.

You wouldn't be up in arms if he wasn't white. So there you go. Six of one...


We should require all our racists to carry their racism on their sleeve so that we can get them in trouble when needed.
Odds are? Well then, let's convict him because that is what the odds say! So who is doing the profiling here?

By the way, I agree with you that the death of a young person is the tragedy here. I am just not certain, as so many are, that he died because Zimmerman was a racist.

You have a distinct talent for throwing in complete non-sequitors. But you got me - I wouldn't be up in arms if Zimmerman wasn't white. Cuz maybe I wouldn't have even heard of this tragedy unless I lived in Sanford, FL, you think?
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Odds are? Well then, let's convict him because that is what the odds say! So who is doing the profiling here?
Dude, I'm in no way saying let's convict him because he might have racially profiled Martin or because the police didn't do their job initially. I'm saying let's have an investigation to see what really happened because, based on the information surrounding the case, it appears to me that Zimmerman was the one whose actions led to an unnecessary death. That does not make him guilty. Innocent until proven guilty.

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By the way, I agree with you that the death of a young person is the tragedy here. I am just not certain, as so many are, that he died because Zimmerman was a racist.
Maybe he died because Zimmerman was an idiot. The situation still needs investigation.

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You have a distinct talent for throwing in complete non-sequitors. But you got me - I wouldn't be up in arms if Zimmerman wasn't white. Cuz maybe I wouldn't have even heard of this tragedy unless I lived in Sanford, FL, you think?
Maybe. Maybe not.
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Except Zimmeran called Martin a Fvckin COON while chasing him. There mentors and coaches who are racist you know.
come on man, that's not the truth. No one, not even the media has agreed on that. You just hate hispanics.
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im sick of hearing about this case. let the jury handle it.
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im sick of hearing about this case. let the jury handle it.
Ain't gonna be no jury. They won't charge him with squat. Grand Jury is going to let him walk.
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