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Old 06-01-2012, 04:12 PM   #1581
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if he's lying about inconsequential things, then it certainly raises a whole lot of doubt about his facts pertaining to shooting someone to death and claiming self defense.

40 years sounds about right to me.


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Personal finances are relevant to the killing... how?
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:28 PM   #1583
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Personal finances are relevant to the killing... how?
Personal finances are relevant to the decision of letting him out on bail and the amount of bail.
Where did you see anything about convicting him? They're just recalling him to be held in custody, since he has a lot of cash stashed away, and a second passport, which he obtained after the shooting and didn't disclose to the judge.
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lying about personal finances and a second passport are relevant because we can't believe a single word out of this murderers mouth. what a lying sac of **** waste of human flesh!
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:45 PM   #1585
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lying about personal finances and a second passport are relevant because we can't believe a single word out of this murderers mouth. what a lying sac of **** waste of human flesh!
I wont comment on finances because lawyers should do a decent job in questioning, but the passport is a bit trickier.

IIRC, its a renewal passport so if he was asked "do you have more than one passport?" its not clear whether that refers to physical books or passport numbers. If he says no, it could mean he only has one number, but two books.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:17 PM   #1587
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the only fish that NEVER get caught are the ones that keep their mouth closed. --DUMMY!!(zimmerman)--

He waived a speedy trial because he thought he going to be free thru the trail. Miscalculated on that one.

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Old 06-01-2012, 06:57 PM   #1588
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if he's lying about inconsequential things, then it certainly raises a whole lot of doubt about his facts pertaining to shooting someone to death and claiming self defense.

40 years sounds about right to me.


We'll keep this in mind. When you're accused of a crime that you may or may not have committed, and someone brings up a lie you told, we'll be sure to convict you immediately, regardless of the rest of the case.

In fact, since the reasoning is so clear to you, we'll let you push the plunger for your own lethal injection based solely on the fact that we think you lied about something.





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For anyone with a brain, A. The DA took a lot of heat, and would have released ALL evidence supporting their side to save face. They did not, which means, they have nothing. This will never make it to trial.
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The DA had their thumbs up their asses. They had, and have nothing. With all the public pressure, with Obama sneezing at their doorstep, it would have been in their best interest to release whatever evidence they had to appease the public. Since they didn't have any, they took forever (further pissing off the public) then finally arrested him when the pressure got too great. This is not about innocent or guilty. This is about the fact that the media basically made the DA forget the ACTUAL law, and paint Zimmerman as "guilty" because the people wanted it.


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Meanwhile, Zimmerman's defense team and prosecutors were both on the same side in court Friday afternoon fighting media companies' request to release more information in the case.

Prosecution and defense lawyers argued that a host of material should remain sealed.

The intense public attention on the case is a chief reason certain information should remain out of the public eye, Bernardo de la Rionda of State Attorney Angela Corey's office said in a motion filed earlier this month.

He argued that releasing too much "will result in this matter being tried in the press rather than in court, and an inability to seat a fair and impartial jury in Seminole County." De la Rionda also voiced worries about witnesses being "reluctant to testify" for fear that their privacy would be violated and other witnesses being "harassed by media representatives."

Specifically, the state wants the names and addresses of witnesses kept out of the public record. It asks for the same for crime scene and autopsy photos, a 911 recording of the incident and cell phone records of Martin, Zimmerman and one witness.

De la Rionda is also requesting a judge seal statements Zimmerman made to law enforcement officers, some of which may be used against him at trial because they were "inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses."

New documents shed light on Martin killing

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, filed his own motion agreeing with the prosecution's desire not to release material. He said the defense wants 1,000 e-mails received by Sanford police to be sealed, plus statements by Zimmerman. He asked that text messages, e-mail messages or journals made by the defendant be kept private, at least until they can be reviewed.
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Savage beating.
feel free to cut and paste the pertinent portion of the law that specifies what injuries do and do not qualify for someone to be able to use self-defense. I'll wait.



p.s - you know he doesn't need to take the stand right?
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You're right. Most abject pvssies would fear for their lives during a beating of that magnitude.

He won't have to take the stand - because we already have proof that he's a LIAR.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:19 AM   #1593
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By KYLE HIGHTOWER and MIKE SCHNEIDER | Associated Press – 7 hrs ago

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The credibility of Trayvon Martin's shooter could be an issue at trial after a judge said that George Zimmerman and his wife lied to the court about their finances to obtain a bond, legal experts say.

That's because the case hinges on jurors believing his account of what happened the night the 19-year-old was killed.


The questioning of Zimmerman's truthfulness by the judge on Friday could undermine the defendant's credibility if it is brought up at trial. It also may complicate how his defense presents him as a witness, said Orlando-area attorney Randy McCLean, who is a former prosecutor.

"The other key witness, unfortunately is deceased," McClean said. "Basically, Zimmerman is going to be asking the jury to believe his version of the facts. As the case stands now, his credibility is absolutely critical to the case."
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You're right. Most abject pvssies would fear for their lives during a beating of that magnitude.

He won't have to take the stand - because we already have proof that he's a LIAR.
Jurors are not allowed to make an inference as to guilt in such instances and will be instructed by the presiding judge accordingly.
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Let's hope the jurors are more intelligent than Zimmerman's defenders.

I wonder what else he's lying about? Does he have a third passport stashed somewhere? Has he shot anyone else that we don't know about? Is his name really Zimmerman?
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Let's hope the jurors are more intelligent than Zimmerman's defenders.

I wonder what else he's lying about? Does he have a third passport stashed somewhere? Has he shot anyone else that we don't know about? Is his name really Zimmerman?
These are all awesome questions, I hope you can go through an accelerated law school program in time to be the prosecutor. Hey, what if Zimmerman is really Trayvon Martin's jilted lover???

p.s - As dumb as he likely is, I can think of several rational explanations for his lie that all revolve around the media's negligence and race baiting that has made him fear for the life of he and his family.
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These are all awesome questions, I hope you can go through an accelerated law school program in time to be the prosecutor. Hey, what if Zimmerman is really Trayvon Martin's jilted lover???

p.s - As dumb as he likely is, I can think of several rational explanations for his lie that all revolve around the media's negligence and race baiting that has made him fear for the life of he and his family.
Bingo, you posted this before I had a chance to. He can simply say the black panethers were after me, trying to kill me, and I feared for my life AGAIN, so I panicked, didn't want the media to find out I have 200K in donation money, and a passport in case the media reveals my location and I have to run for my life. To me, it's a perfectly legitimate reason, and I won't hold it against him. I'd lie to if I thought the black panthers would kidnap my family for ransom to get this money...I sure as sh!t know that ape Holder isn't going to stop them.
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Bingo, you posted this before I had a chance to. He can simply say the black panethers were after me, trying to kill me, and I feared for my life AGAIN, so I panicked, didn't want the media to find out I have 200K in donation money, and a passport in case the media reveals my location and I have to run for my life. To me, it's a perfectly legitimate reason, and I won't hold it against him. I'd lie to if I thought the black panthers would kidnap my family for ransom to get this money...I sure as sh!t know that ape Holder isn't going to stop them.
This case is really getting to you isn't it. Keep it going.

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This case is really getting to you isn't it. Keep it going.

A wise man once told me. "when people show you who they are, believe them"
I thought Holder was a sack of sh!t LONG before Treyvon Martin. If you are implying that me calling Holder an ape means I am making a racist comment (since Holder is black), rather than a clumsy mammal with smaller than human brain capacity, then

a) you seriously have a problem with racism and should look in the mirror
b) are just as guilty as the congresspeople and the media for bringing race into something where it doesnt belong.
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