E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Everything Else > The Off-Topic > Gun Talk

Gun Talk
Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-29-2012, 09:30 AM   #1
SPDSKTR
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Birmingham, AL, USA
Posts: 2,147
My Ride: E30 with an S52
Car-mounted holster options.

The handle of my 1911 scratches my seat where it rubs, so I've been looking for a good solution to carry it in the car so it's more easily accessible if need be. A couple options...

http://www.texascustomholsters.com/



And look what kind of car it's mounted in! I do not like the screw-in mount, though.



http://www.gumcreekcustoms.com/Unive...-Mount-p5.html



Works in conjunction with most holsters.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucifer325 View Post
I know I suck as an OT poster, but at least I have Edken to make me look good.
SPDSKTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
Ghostie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Here
Posts: 612
My Ride: What else?
I personally would want my weapon to remain concealed at all times so ^^ that wouldn't work for me, if I were to be stopped by a cop.
Ghostie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 10:00 AM   #3
SPDSKTR
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Birmingham, AL, USA
Posts: 2,147
My Ride: E30 with an S52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostie View Post
I personally would want my weapon to remain concealed at all times so ^^ that wouldn't work for me, if I were to be stopped by a cop.
In Alabama, we can carry a firearm in our vehicles however we want as long as we have our permit. If I ever DO get stopped, I'd simply say, "Officer, just for the safety of both of us, there is a pistol located under the steering column." Of course, JonJon would NEVER tell an officer this, even if this were the circumstance. But srsly... going on road trips and what not, this would be convenient.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucifer325 View Post
I know I suck as an OT poster, but at least I have Edken to make me look good.

Last edited by SPDSKTR; 03-29-2012 at 10:08 AM.
SPDSKTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 10:24 AM   #4
Ghostie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Here
Posts: 612
My Ride: What else?
Obviously your state laws and personal preferences may vary, so I'm not going to tell you what to do

We can carry in cars without permits, but it has to remain concealed. My main worry would be a cop seeing it BEFORE I get a chance to tell them (you might try walking up to your vehicle from behind the way an officer would in a traffic stop to see how visible it is)

I also prefer that my weapon stay concealed from my passengers as well (just my preference)..plus I have super long legs, and barely have enough leg room as it is.

Have you considered mounting it under the seat? or lower to the floor board?
Ghostie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 04:29 PM   #5
SPDSKTR
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Birmingham, AL, USA
Posts: 2,147
My Ride: E30 with an S52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostie View Post
Obviously your state laws and personal preferences may vary, so I'm not going to tell you what to do

We can carry in cars without permits, but it has to remain concealed. My main worry would be a cop seeing it BEFORE I get a chance to tell them (you might try walking up to your vehicle from behind the way an officer would in a traffic stop to see how visible it is)

I also prefer that my weapon stay concealed from my passengers as well (just my preference)..plus I have super long legs, and barely have enough leg room as it is.

Have you considered mounting it under the seat? or lower to the floor board?
Passengers, I don't mind so much. Everyone who rides in my car knows I carry. Big whoop.

Good point with the police officer. I figure hands out the window would be the most appropriate thing in that case, though.

I've also toyed with the idea of having some holster mounted to the door pocket. Grab it with the left hand, put it in the right hand, open fire. Ideally, I'd like to grab with my right hand so no hand transferring takes place.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucifer325 View Post
I know I suck as an OT poster, but at least I have Edken to make me look good.
SPDSKTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 05:07 PM   #6
speedcrazy1532
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 721
My Ride: is over
Under your seat is the best option, then practice drawing it. No offense but are you just trying to be a boss by carrying the 1911? Seems like your Smith would really be the better option in a quick draw from under the seat scenario. The 1911 safety is not ideal when you're drawing sideways IMHO. This wouldn't be an issue with the Smith. Just food for thought.
__________________

-Phil
speedcrazy1532 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 05:31 PM   #7
JonJon
Tinfoilhatatarian
 
JonJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: One of the most evil states ever to exist
Posts: 3,486
My Ride: .
Send a message via AIM to JonJon
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPDSKTR View Post
, I'd simply say, "Officer, just for the safety of both of us, there is a pistol located under the steering column." Of course, JonJon would NEVER tell an officer this, even if this were the circumstance.
Are you a threat to the officer? Do plan on shooting him?
If not, how is he any safer by informing?

If you inform, good chance you both will be less safe.

If you feel disclosing makes him safer, make sure you tell him about your pocket knive, any bats or hockey sticks in the car... Oh yea and the tire iron.

I'd suggest selling the gun if you aren't sure it won't misbehave and jump out then start shooting on it's own
__________________
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

Quote:
Originally Posted by 'busa View Post
I agree with JonJon.

Last edited by JonJon; 03-29-2012 at 05:33 PM.
JonJon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 05:37 PM   #8
CharlzO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 646
My Ride: 2000 328ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon View Post
Are you a threat to the officer? Do plan on shooting him?
If not, how is he any safer by informing?
It's not about being safe. It's about disclosure. By informing him/her up front, you're not going to let them get itchy by suddenly seeing a weapon. If you were walking up to someone for a traffic stop, and they say "hey, there's a gun under my wheel", they at least know it's there. And as long as you aren't reaching for the wheel, they'll appreciate it. However, if they walk up, see it and you don't say anything, they'll be a little more apprehensive, I would think.
CharlzO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 05:53 PM   #9
JonJon
Tinfoilhatatarian
 
JonJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: One of the most evil states ever to exist
Posts: 3,486
My Ride: .
Send a message via AIM to JonJon
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlzO View Post
It's not about being safe. It's about disclosure. By informing him/her up front, you're not going to let them get itchy by suddenly seeing a weapon. If you were walking up to someone for a traffic stop, and they say "hey, there's a gun under my wheel", they at least know it's there. And as long as you aren't reaching for the wheel, they'll appreciate it. However, if they walk up, see it and you don't say anything, they'll be a little more apprehensive, I would think.
If you say "hey, there's a gun under my wheel", I'd expect you to be pulled out your window and thrown to the ground.
__________________
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

Quote:
Originally Posted by 'busa View Post
I agree with JonJon.
JonJon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 05:59 PM   #10
Serbonze
Master of his domain.
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: In my house
Posts: 2,067
My Ride: My wife
Check out the RTI wheel from G-Code. It may work for your needs.

http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/GCA25.html
__________________
Serbonze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 06:00 PM   #11
HiHoBrian
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,113
My Ride: 05 M3
Being pulled out and cuffed until you are identified and confirmed to have a permit is much better than being drawn on by an officer that diddnt expect to see your weapon. If it is fully concealed I wouldn't say anything,but visable in a car mount I would calmly disclose.
__________________
HiHoBrian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 04:29 PM   #12
SPDSKTR
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Birmingham, AL, USA
Posts: 2,147
My Ride: E30 with an S52
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedcrazy1532 View Post
Under your seat is the best option, then practice drawing it. No offense but are you just trying to be a boss by carrying the 1911? Seems like your Smith would really be the better option in a quick draw from under the seat scenario. The 1911 safety is not ideal when you're drawing sideways IMHO. This wouldn't be an issue with the Smith. Just food for thought.
I carry my 1911 for a few reasons.

1) I have an IWB holster for it that's actually worth a crap.
2) I'm far more accurate with it than I am my S&W.
3) I'd much rather hit them with cinder blocks than standard bricks. (Get the metaphor?)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon View Post
Are you a threat to the officer? Do plan on shooting him?
If not, how is he any safer by informing?

If you inform, good chance you both will be less safe.

If you feel disclosing makes him safer, make sure you tell him about your pocket knive, any bats or hockey sticks in the car... Oh yea and the tire iron.

I'd suggest selling the gun if you aren't sure it won't misbehave and jump out then start shooting on it's own


Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlzO View Post
It's not about being safe. It's about disclosure. By informing him/her up front, you're not going to let them get itchy by suddenly seeing a weapon. If you were walking up to someone for a traffic stop, and they say "hey, there's a gun under my wheel", they at least know it's there. And as long as you aren't reaching for the wheel, they'll appreciate it. However, if they walk up, see it and you don't say anything, they'll be a little more apprehensive, I would think.
I generally inform if I feel there's a chance the officer will see it (HIGHLY unlikely) or asks me to step out of the vehicle. Otherwise, I keep my mouth shut.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon View Post
If you say "hey, there's a gun under my wheel", I'd expect you to be pulled out your window and thrown to the ground.
Yep. "For your safety and my own, I want to let you know I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and I do have possession of a firearm" or something to that extent. When I got busted for going over double the posted limit, I just simply handed him my permit with my license and insurance card. He thanked me for the honesty and went on to talk about not liking "surprises." I highly doubt he gave a crap whether or not I "sacrificed my rights" (as JonJon puts it).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucifer325 View Post
I know I suck as an OT poster, but at least I have Edken to make me look good.
SPDSKTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2012, 04:35 PM   #13
deadpass
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: phoenix, az
Posts: 1,650
My Ride: 01 330i
If you're going to go for one of those I like the idea of the first one better (aside from the screws to mount it) but I like how versatile the second one is. I would probably try the steering column one first.
__________________
deadpass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2012, 04:12 PM   #14
Locutus09
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 869
My Ride: Something Slow
SPDSKTR,

Ever consider getting a medic kit box and stowing the 1911 in there? I'm assuming there is enough room for it to fit. You can then add foam and what not to make it secure, and have the handle sticking out to where you just grab with your right hand and in a simple motion swing up.

And JonJon, in Ohio we are required by law to Inform...it sucks
__________________
Locutus09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2012, 06:03 PM   #15
JonJon
Tinfoilhatatarian
 
JonJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: One of the most evil states ever to exist
Posts: 3,486
My Ride: .
Send a message via AIM to JonJon
One example of many why I'll never inform even if in a state that requires it, it will be a judgement call.

http://ohioccw.org/201107214955/cantonpd.html
__________________
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

Quote:
Originally Posted by 'busa View Post
I agree with JonJon.
JonJon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2012, 06:14 PM   #16
Locutus09
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 869
My Ride: Something Slow
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon View Post
One example of many why I'll never inform even if in a state that requires it, it will be a judgement call.

http://ohioccw.org/201107214955/cantonpd.html
I've seen that video too many times, read about it on OFCC too many times, discussed about it in the forums too many times.
__________________
Locutus09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2012, 06:17 PM   #17
JonJon
Tinfoilhatatarian
 
JonJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: One of the most evil states ever to exist
Posts: 3,486
My Ride: .
Send a message via AIM to JonJon
Same here
__________________
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

Quote:
Originally Posted by 'busa View Post
I agree with JonJon.
JonJon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is OFF





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use