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Old 04-12-2012, 11:49 AM   #161
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I think we're looking at a Troll here. OP never responded. This is like those cartoons where the one guy starts the fight and everyone is fighting and he crawls out the door as everyone is beating the **** out of each other.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:55 AM   #162
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I think we're looking at a Troll here. OP never responded. This is like those cartoons where the one guy starts the fight and everyone is fighting and he crawls out the door as everyone is beating the **** out of each other.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:42 PM   #163
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OP dont hesitate to use regular and save yourself $$$$.
People like ^^Alpin strongly believe their car is a Supercar that requires only the best without actually proving with legitimate examples they need it.

Its like talking to mac owners and trying to explain to them that macs DO get viruses. They wont believe it even if examples are shown.
It will run normally without long term effects on regular.. Otherwise BMW wouldnt state minumum octaine 87 in the manual and the gas flap.

If you like the placebo effect then by all means use the premium. Id rather keep a $20 in my pocket every time i fill up.

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Old 04-12-2012, 12:44 PM   #164
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This thread did raise good thoughts though.

Like maybe we need a dress code for the e46 fanatics. I guess the fact that it's a BMW forum isn't enough to keep out the riff raff.
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lol... a tank of PREMIUM does not cost $20 extra. Wake up people. It's $3.00 at MOST
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:06 PM   #166
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lol... a tank of PREMIUM does not cost $20 extra. Wake up people. It's $3.00 at MOST
at 30 cents extra per gallon, a 16 gallon fill up will cost you almost $5 difference.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:10 PM   #167
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at 30 cents extra per gallon, a 16 gallon fill up will cost you almost $5 difference.
I checked local gas prices here in socal using gasbuddy.com, premium on average costs an extra 13-18 cents over regular.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:29 PM   #168
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at 30 cents extra per gallon, a 16 gallon fill up will cost you almost $5 difference.
Yes but you didn't ask him what size gas tank he has, did you? Did you?

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lol... a tank of PREMIUM does not cost $20 extra. Wake up people. It's $3.00 at MOST
You know what I do with that $17 margin of error? I convert it to pennies, shove it in my gas tank, and when I floor it my exhaust shoots pennies at the riff raff behind me!

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Old 04-12-2012, 01:42 PM   #169
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at 30 cents extra per gallon, a 16 gallon fill up will cost you almost $5 difference.
You bunch of retards... I said 30 cent difference where i am PER Litre..... **** me.... If its a $3 difference where you are thats ****ing great... Enjoy that... Wish we had that option. But we dont... Its 25-30 cent difference between 87 and 91 and adds about $20 a tank.

****... Fill your car with race fuel and feel like your $7000 car is a $300k super car... Dont give a ****...

This topic has been settled... You either use premium or you dont.... Preference is on the owner.



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I checked local gas prices here in socal using gasbuddy.com, premium on average costs an extra 13-18 cents over regular.
I know that you all think so over there, but southern California does not equal the United States.

National average shows premium at 27 cents above regular.
http://fuelgaugereport.aaa.com/?redi....com/index.asp

In DC yesterday I was seeing 30 cents above all over the place. In Virginia we see mid- to high- 20s above.

What's funny is that both crude and wholesale prices have come down since February, but retail has increased.
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You bunch of retards... I said 30 cent difference where i am PER Litre..... **** me.... If its a $3 difference where you are thats ****ing great... Enjoy that... Wish we had that option. But we dont... Its 25-30 cent difference between 87 and 91 and adds about $20 a tank.

****... Fill your car with race fuel and feel like your $7000 car is a $300k super car... Dont give a ****...

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lol... a tank of PREMIUM does not cost $20 extra. Wake up people. It's $3.00 at MOST
In America, yes. In Canada, where it's sold by the litre (less than a gallon) and more expensive (per gallon) than it is in America, then it is at least $20-30 extra for a premium fillup.
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What's funny is that both crude and wholesale prices have come down since February, but retail has increased.
Don't wave your "F big oil flag" quite yet, but:

Crude goes up: gas at the pump can jump immediately due to perceived supply/demand (people do perceive an immediate problem and will go and gas up that day, not everyone, but enough to feel it), gas future contracts, and a bunch of other whacky factors

Crude goes down: that affects stuff coming out of the ground today, that still has to be transported (by tanker, pipeline, truck, rail, etc.), refined, distributed, refined again, distributed again, then sold at the pump, so it takes weeks or months to feel the initial price drop where at every point in the system a savings is realized and passed along.

For example Chicago gets most of its crude from a pipeline that runs north from LA, and a small amount from ND. It then gets refined here (or hopefully in that dump Gary, IN). If gas falls in one of those places, it will fall here about a week later.

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Don't wave your "F big oil flag" quite yet, but:

Crude goes up: gas at the pump can jump immediately due to perceived supply/demand, gas future contracts, and a bunch of other whacky factors

Crude goes down: that affects stuff coming out of the ground today, that still has to be transported (by tanker, pipeline, truck, rail, etc.), refined, distributed, refined again, distributed again, then sold at the pump, so it takes weeks or months to feel the initial price drop where at every point in the system a savings is realized.

For example Chicago gets most of its crude from a pipeline that runs north from LA, and a small amount from ND. If gas falls in one of those places, it will fall here about a week later.

I worked in research & trading at a hedge fund for 5 years and can offer obscure meaningless insight into like 2-3 topics, max.
Oh I understand completely that today's crude price dropping doesn't cause today's retail gasoline price to drop. The more interesting part is the wholesale drop and retail increase.

I just thought it was an interesting observation. What will be really funny will be if crude prices drop over a period of say, 6 months, and retail prices continue to jump.
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You bunch of retards... I said 30 cent difference where i am PER Litre..... **** me.... If its a $3 difference where you are thats ****ing great... Enjoy that... Wish we had that option. But we dont... Its 25-30 cent difference between 87 and 91 and adds about $20 a tank.

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Is it safe to maybe add octaine to our cars? If so what would you add to do so. You can get more power/ better gas (if you drive like a old man) am i correct?
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Hey everyone, i just bought my 330ci a few days ago. I always had japanese cars before. BMW seems like a different language to me nowadays. My question is it says on my fuel gauge Unleaded gas ... but anyone out there using premium at all?
Premium is the ONLY gas i will put in my '04 330ci vert!!!!!!!!!!
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Is it safe to maybe add octaine to our cars? If so what would you add to do so. You can get more power/ better gas (if you drive like a old man) am i correct?
I have seen reports that the ECU will adjust to higher octane, how much higher I have not seen supporting data for.

I have run 100 octane Sunoco GT260, I did notice an slight increase in the lead reading in that used oil analysis. Maybe the track day did run slightly more ignition timing?


If I was to add an octane booster, I would try the Torco product:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A2AMIXA9LL5MBI

Torco booster octane boost chart for 93 octane:
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Torco booster octane boost chart for 91 octane:
http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/acce...lend-chart.pdf

It should allow you to get to at least 107 Octane if you start with 93.
I may try it and take my car to the drag strip. I can use my laptop to record data there. I probably wouldn't try for more than 97 octane though.

We know the ECU from BMW is tuned for US 91 octane and will adjust down to 87........ if it will adjust down 4 octane, maybe it can also adjust to 95 (+4).
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