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Old 04-11-2012, 11:22 PM   #21
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It is decent amount but mine needs alot of work on mine. Ill be lucky to get rid of it in my opinion.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:33 PM   #22
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Damn.

$18,000 + Your ride, for a ZHP 'vert with grey interior.

Those ZHP cams must be made out of gold...

Oh well, as long as you like it.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:39 PM   #23
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Sounds like he just doesn't want to listen. All he sees is a newer car. I agree, definitely getting raped. The dealer is just whispering sweet nothing's in his ear before he does it.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:40 PM   #24
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Sounds like he just doesn't want to listen. All he sees is a newer car. I agree, definitely getting raped. The dealer is just whispering sweet nothing's in his ear before he does it.
LOL.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:54 PM   #25
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give me $18k + your car.. and i'll give you my m3
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:06 AM   #26
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Its not that he doesn't want to listen, he just isn't very smart
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:15 AM   #27
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Sorry but I got my ZHP with 62,000 miles for $16,000 a year ago. It was in very good shape. I paid a bit of a premium because I wanted a ZHP and found my ideal color/6spd. If you're happy, awesome, but you got ripped sadly.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:16 AM   #28
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I'm with them, walk from that deal. You're forgetting that milage doesn't mean that this one will cost you less. My most maintenance free BMW was a '92 325is with 250k miles on it, never had any sort of huge rebuilds either, it was also the oldest and second highest milage car I've ever owned (my 318 has 340k on it).

I bought my ZHP with 133k miles on it for 11k, it came with a full list of maintenance that'd been done, cooling system refresh at 85k miles, clutch and drieshaft at 130k, FCAB at 125k, etc. I read the crap out of these forums before settling on a deal because I knew from past BMW's that it's not the milage, but what's been replaced how long ago that matters.

Don't do it... unless it's literally had ALL preventive maintenance done yesterday so it's like you're buying a brand new E46.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:27 AM   #29
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All of us who's been on this board long enough knows he's being raped on the price. He's just too stupid to realize it.

Dealers need people like him to keep them in business. LOL
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:23 AM   #30
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This is what I would buy for that money and still keep the e46. Just giving an example

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/2945281096.html
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:42 AM   #31
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This is what I would buy for that money and still keep the e46. Just giving an example

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/2945281096.html

Not if I buy it first, as an example of course
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:44 AM   #32
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Too much for that car. You can get an M3 convertible for that money. I suggest you try other dealers. Seems like the owner is running a fast one on you. It's not worth it.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:52 AM   #33
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I talked him down to 18 out the door.
Great negotiating!


You say you are paying more because trading in......Do you owe money on the 328i, and are they adding that remaining principal balance to the selling price?


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Old 04-12-2012, 09:56 AM   #34
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Well OP, if you're really set on this, just remember that if you're buying from a dealer, you're never getting a great deal.

But srsly, you're getting raped on this.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:09 AM   #35
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I'd walk from that deal.....

I sell cars for a living. PM me what he's asking for his car, what he's giving you for your trade, as well as what if anything you still owe on your car and I'll help you out.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:23 AM   #36
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I understand where your all coming from and ya im over paying when you compare 330ci to private party value.
Retail dealer prices:
http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2006/...dard-Equipment
http://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/2006...icetype=retail
Private party:
http://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/2006...ty&anchor=true

I dont have time to do alot of DIY like most of you so what I have in mine is good 6k$ in repairs since ive had my 328i, yes alot of you think trading mine in for 2500$ trade in value is crazy but mine is definitely in fair condition at best with what it has wrong with it. I wouldn't even buy my car, im sure none of you would either. Im getting the 330 for "fair" private party value, me eating the negative equity i have is my own fault so don't judge me on that, it was mistake and thats on me.

I can throw good deals out there all day from private sellers but find me a decent bmw with that many miles from dealer where I can get rid of mine and walk away private party value of fair and still am able to walk out the door at book value trading my pos in. Getting rid of my pos is the problem and this is opportunity to do it, maybe some of you understand that...lol

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:29 AM   #37
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If your quoting the Kelly Blue Book for prices your mad. KBB value is usually about 120% of real life price. And even by KBB standards your overpaying.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:19 AM   #38
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I understand where your all coming from and ya im over paying when you compare 330ci to private party value.
Retail dealer prices:
http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2006/...dard-Equipment
http://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/2006...icetype=retail
Private party:
http://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/2006...ty&anchor=true

I dont have time to do alot of DIY like most of you so what I have in mine is good 6k$ in repairs since ive had my 328i, yes alot of you think trading mine in for 2500$ trade in value is crazy but mine is definitely in fair condition at best with what it has wrong with it. I wouldn't even buy my car, im sure none of you would either. Im getting the 330 for "fair" private party value, me eating the negative equity i have is my own fault so don't judge me on that, it was mistake and thats on me.

I can throw good deals out there all day from private sellers but find me a decent bmw with that many miles from dealer where I can get rid of mine and walk away private party value of fair and still am able to walk out the door at book value trading my pos in. Getting rid of my pos is the problem and this is opportunity to do it, maybe some of you understand that...lol

http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2000/...dard-Equipment

As I said earlier, since you are set on this go ahead and get it. But you might want to shop around a little before you sign the dotted line. Unless you absolutely can't stand anything except for e46, I say you are over paying for this car.

My 01 was appraised at 4k for trade in by BMW dealer when it had SES and Brake lights on and my car is nowhere near mint condition. I was almost trading it in for a 2008 328i e92 with CPO warranty for next 2 years. And he was asking 23k for it. That makes 23(asking price without negotiation)- 4K(my car)=19K out of my pocket for a newer car with warranty. I didn't go with the deal because I don't want car payments right now. It was at Murray BMW in denver last month.

And my friend who lives in Denver got a 09 e90 2 weeks ago from a Champan BMW in Arizona for 24k with CPO and only 30k miles on the ODO. He flew there saturday morning, landed in Phoenix at 2 o'clock. Went to the dealership and bought it within one hour(it was a saturday)and drove it home(14 hours drive straight from the dealership in Phoenix to Denver). With CPO warranty you can't go wrong and you can get service in any BMW dealers.

These are the cars that are certified by BMW and carries factory bumper to bumper warranty(so no DIY). If you are about to shell out 18k why not a couple of grands more for a newer model and factory warranty, unless you absolutely hate the e90s. Look for cars in neighboring states, even shipping them won't cost you more than 500-1000 if you have no time to drive it back.

Just my opinion though, you don't have to listen to me. I am just trying to tell you what is out there when you are going to spend that much money.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:36 AM   #39
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Ok well you didn't mention that you were upside down in your current car.
That changes things a bit.....you are paying more because you are trading in a deficit so they are adding that to the selling price.

Given the fact that your car is in dire need of repairs, and you owe money on it.....then I guess go for it, but, beware....you can easily find yourself in the same boat you're in now with a much larger debt.

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Old 04-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #40
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If you still owe money on a 12 year old BMW in sub-par condition, maybe you can't afford a newer one. Not trying to be a d!ck or anything, just saying be careful you don't end up in the same boat a few years from now. Hope it all works out for you.
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