E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > E46 BMW > General E46 Forum

General E46 Forum
This is the place to get answers, opinions and everything you need related to your E46 (sedan, coupe, convertible and wagon) BMW!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-05-2016, 10:41 PM   #1
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Genuine BMW E46 rear axle bushing removal tool, anyone used it?

I bought this tool under the impression that it can remove all 4 of the subframe bushings. The design is a lot less straight forward than I expected. I fiddled with it for a little bit on the used subframe I bought and wasn't able to figure out 100% how to use it. Just wanted to see if anyone has used it before. I will be contacting ECS or FCP to see if they have access to any 'official' instructions for this tool. Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByBimmerApp1457239279.614522.jpg
Views:	167
Size:	323.2 KB
ID:	625951
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Ads by Google

Guests, get your FREE E46Fanatics.com membership to remove this ad.
Old 03-06-2016, 10:57 AM   #2
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
ya didnt think so :\
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 04:27 PM   #3
ms9876543
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 131
My Ride: 325i M Sport Touring
Maybe this will help, you might be 'missing' a bit:

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/att...7&d=1224552176

Last edited by ms9876543; 03-06-2016 at 04:28 PM.
ms9876543 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 04:31 PM   #4
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Genuine BMW E46 rear axle bushing removal tool, anyone used it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ms9876543 View Post
Maybe this will help, you might be 'missing' a bit:

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/att...7&d=1224552176

Eh, those tools are different. I noticed this 'tool' i bought is really similar to this subframe bushings tool. It seems like I'm missing a part or something...I'm pretty stumped. Like I said I'll see if FCP or ECS is any help and if not I'll just have to see if the dealer knows anything.Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByBimmerApp1457303535.859861.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	77.0 KB
ID:	625989
__________________

Last edited by evanr614; 03-06-2016 at 04:32 PM.
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 03:55 AM   #5
jwleonard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 56
My Ride: 1999 328I
There are two kits, one is for doing the bushings for the rear differential to subframe bushings (two small and one large) and the other is for the subframe to chassis bushings (four equal size). I made the tools to do mine and they are essentially bearing presses. Even with the subframe removed you have limited access to work.

Take a look here:
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...t%20Tool%20Kit
jwleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 09:44 AM   #6
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
I appreciate the input but I am quite aware of these tools already
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 11:15 AM   #7
jwleonard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 56
My Ride: 1999 328I
Perhaps I didn't understand your question then. I thought with that information and previously being told you were possibly missing parts of the kit it might help resolve your issue.

Do you already have the subframe out?
jwleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 01:06 PM   #8
jwleonard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 56
My Ride: 1999 328I
Ignore my question asking if you have the subframe out; I just realized you have a second subframe you tried this on.

You clearly don't have the official kit but I don't see any reason it won't work. I just noticed the large cup "receiver" has a threaded bolt hole in the center. The small round piece is for pulling the bushings and the large one is to pull the old one out into and the new one into place.

If you place the receiver over the top of the bushing (part facing down when installed in the car) it should align with the opening in the subrame and be large enough for the bushing to fit inside of it. The small one should be on the other side of the bushing and small enough to fit inside the subframe opening.

I'm working off the assumption both ends of the bolt are standard threads. If not you will have to adjust as required. If that is true the one problem I see with the design of your kit is the nut on the small end of the bolt might back off while turning the other end. If that happens you could try placing two nuts on the small end and locking them tight against each other to prevent that issue. If the ends are threaded opposite of each other you shouldn't need this.

The best way to explain it would be:
(With subframe removed)

REMOVAL
1. Remove the nut and washer from the small end of the "bolt". Slide the receiver over it with the closed end first until it engages the larger threads, then rotate it well onto the larger threads. Leave it there.

2. Insert the small end of the bolt from the top (part facing down when installed in the car) of the bushing so the small end comes out the other side of the bushing. You may need to turn the receiver further up the bolt; adjust it so the small end threads are just barely fully exposed.

3. Install the small round piece on the the small end of the bolt that is protruding from the bushing with the open end toward the bushing. Install the washer and nut against the closed end of the small round piece and thread the nut down. It doesn't really matter how far down you spin the nut but make sure there are at least two threads protruding from the nut and you don't go so far that you run out of threads and hit the shoulder.

4. Using an appropriate tool, turn the large end of the bolt counter-clockwise while holding the reciever in place until pressure begins to be applied to both sides and adjust parts of the tool to maintain alignment. The large end should only touch subframe and the small end should only touch the bushing.

5. After you have both sides aligned and staying in place securely continue turning the large end of the bolt counter-clockwise until the bushing is removed from the subframe and into the receiver.

6. To remove the bushing from the tool, remove the nut, washer and small circle piece. The bushing should be able to slide off the small end of the bolt.

Repeat for each bushing, I recommend removal all first since the tool is set up for it.

Clean any corrosion from the openings in the subrame but don't try to make them larger.

INSTALL
1. You will need to turn the large receiver further onto the large threads about equal to the height of the bushings.

2. With the large receiver still on the large end of the bolt insert the small end of the bolt through the opposite side of the subframe (so the opposite from removal).

3. Place the new bushing over the small end of the bolt with the small end of the bushing toward the subframe. Install the small round piece with the open end toward the bushing. Then install the washer and nut as before.

4. Turn the large end of the bolt counter-clockwise until it begins to apply pressure. Make sure the new bushing is perfectly aligned to the opening.

5. Continue turning the large end of the bolt counter-clockwise to pull the bushing into the opening of the subframe. Make absolutely sure the bushing is going in straight (this is very difficult), you may have to release the pressure and adjust several times. Continue turning until the bushing is fully seated in the subframe.

Repeat for each bushing.

This started short and got long as I added details; hope it helps.

Here is a link with pictures of the BMW style tool about halfway down the page.
http://www.khangfixesit.com/2011/08/...-bushings.html
jwleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 04:22 PM   #9
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
None of the pieces for on the larger threaded side of the rod that is the entire issue unfortunately :/
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 06:07 PM   #10
jwleonard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 56
My Ride: 1999 328I
You mean I typed all that for nothing!

Can you describe what doesn't fit a little better?

Are you saying the big receiver won't thread onto the large end of the bolt?

Or does the large receiver not line up with the opining in the subframe?

Or is the large receiver not big enough for the bushing to slide into it on the way out?

Can you take/post some pictures of the part that doesn't work? We can use that to try to find a solution?

Do you have info about the kit manufacturer or a link to where you purchased it?
jwleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 08:32 PM   #11
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwleonard View Post
You mean I typed all that for nothing!

Can you describe what doesn't fit a little better?

Are you saying the big receiver won't thread onto the large end of the bolt?

Or does the large receiver not line up with the opining in the subframe?

Or is the large receiver not big enough for the bushing to slide into it on the way out?

Can you take/post some pictures of the part that doesn't work? We can use that to try to find a solution?

Do you have info about the kit manufacturer or a link to where you purchased it?
Essentially yes haha. What I mean is that none of the two circle pieces fit onto the larger threaded section. They are both small and fit onto the smaller threaded section.

As the title says this is a Genuine BMW tool...I am awaiting to hear back from Garreth of FCP Euro to see what he has found out about it.

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES199104/?...g7NhoCGC_w_wcB
__________________

Last edited by evanr614; 03-07-2016 at 08:32 PM.
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 08:08 AM   #12
lmr2wil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: KS
Posts: 751
My Ride: '00 328Ci
I believe that you bought http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se..._set_of_tools/ As you have noted, you need the "in conjunction with tools" (i.e. http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se...ersal_support/) see http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se..._re/page_1688/ for the procedure.

Good luck.

Luke
lmr2wil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 10:05 AM   #13
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmr2wil View Post
I believe that you bought http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se..._set_of_tools/ As you have noted, you need the "in conjunction with tools" (i.e. http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se...ersal_support/) see http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_se..._re/page_1688/ for the procedure.

Good luck.

Luke
ayyyy its looks like you're on to something...where can i find the part number for the additional pieces in that second link?
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 10:27 AM   #14
lmr2wil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: KS
Posts: 751
My Ride: '00 328Ci
This may be of help... https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...40-83300492397
lmr2wil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 10:29 AM   #15
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Yeah i just spoke with ECS. This is the other part needed however the entire tool from Baum is cheaper.

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES198688/
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 12:09 PM   #16
zander271
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,968
My Ride: 6spd ZHP/5sp XI
Holy **** 400 bucks!

I smell subframe reinforcement happening also
__________________

ZHP Mods: JB Lightweight fly wheel (10.5 pounds), Koni FSD ProKit, Supreme Power Drop Hats, Hotchkis front(30.2mm)/rear(25.4mm) sway bars, Sprint Booster, AFE Stage 1 Intake, Morimoto EvoX-R Headlights, Orion V4 Angel Eyes, Satin Black 18x9 ET42 APEX ARC-8 Wheel

330xi Mods:Front Koni Yellow Struts and Rob43 Rear 9 Way adjustable Rear Dampers,H&R Sport Springs,Supreme Power Drop Hats,ZHP 5 speed shift knob
zander271 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 12:15 PM   #17
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by zander271 View Post
Holy **** 400 bucks!



I smell subframe reinforcement happening also

All kinds of fun stuff in the works
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 01:44 PM   #18
Alex323Ci
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Huntington Beach -Surf City USA
Posts: 19,443
My Ride: M3 & 323Ci (sold)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zander271 View Post
I smell subframe reinforcement happening also
Quote:
Originally Posted by evanr614 View Post
All kinds of fun stuff in the works
btw what ever happened with taking car into BMW for inspection?
__________________
OE CSL WHEELS - OE CSL BRAKES - OE AUTOFLD MIRRORS - CSL RACK - CSL TRUNK - CSL DIFFUSER - AA TUNE - AA PULLEYS - AS 40% SSK - BILSTEIN PSS9s
CF CSL LIP - NAV- BMWP CF STRUT BAR - BMW GROUP N MNTS - GRUPPE M CF INTAKE - SUPERSPRINT - UUC S/S LINES, RTABs - H&R SWAYS - 4.10 M-SPORT DIFF
Alex323Ci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 01:51 PM   #19
evanr614
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,572
My Ride: 2000 328Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex323Ci View Post
btw what ever happened with taking car into BMW for inspection?

They took pictures and put me in contact with someone from BMW NA they never gave me a real estimate. I heard from them last week, they wanted to cover 25% of the 4-5k cost of the repair. But I looked into another body shop that painted my bumper and they want to do the work for A LOT cheaper than my first estimate.
__________________
evanr614 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2016 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use