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Old 01-16-2015, 08:19 AM   #1
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2004 330i for 11,000?

I'm looking to buy this car and I'm wondering if it's worth 11,000

It's a 2004 330i with 54,000 miles
Premium, cold weather and sports package
6 speed manual
19" wheels (the ones that come on the ZHP)
Xenon headlights.

Owned by an older woman. Garaged regularly. All service done at the local BMW dealership. Clean carfax

The price seams kinda high but I may never find one with these options and such low mileage.

Everything else I see has double the mileage and is only slightly less money. Deal or no Deal? What is your gut reaction?
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:27 AM   #2
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Assuming it passes an independent mechanic's inspection, sounds like a good deal.

Note: ZHPs came with 18"s not 19"s
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:43 AM   #3
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cool thanks!
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:47 AM   #4
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+1 Super low mileage, 6 speed.

You can easily end up spending that much money when buying a high mileage one. That said, I'm sure you can negotiate the price down a bit.
My next one will be a 6 speed.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:54 AM   #5
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He (husband is selling wife's car) initially wanted 12,000 and has come down to 11,000. Blue book is just under 10,000 but it seems like everything is going for higher then book.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:05 AM   #6
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Take pictures and post them here, test drive it and have a pre purchase inspection done.
Clean, low mileage 6 speeds are hard to find, I think it's well worth the premium if everything checks out.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:46 AM   #7
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I would argue that the three key factors are mileage, maintenance, and region. After 100k, maintenance costs can be $2k/year or more - cooling, gaskets, vacuum, suspension, alternator, starter etc. at 10k driving a year you are getting 2k free for about four years.

Second, an anal prior owner is worth thousands. If they used their warranty properly, you likely already have refresh of some bushings and other components. And refreshing interior components is incredibly expensive, so a really nice interior is something you can actually maintain, instead of having to repair. For example, convertible and coupe leather boosters get destroyed, but you can make small repairs and maintain if you start well.

Finally, get a California/Florida car. A flight to California and shipping will be less than the cost of the hundreds of components that will be severely corroded.

Paying $1,500-$2k for a car that optimizes these three is a no-brainer. Especially if it is a 6-speed manual!
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:12 AM   #8
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florida cars are actually risky, there are a lot of rebuilt flood damage cars there

A good bet from the east coast is the charlotte and raleigh areas in North Carolina. There's a big BMWCCA chapter there and a lot of really big dealers.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:22 AM   #9
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$11k is a pretty good deal especially if it has all those Packages. I saw a 330ci at the a dealership in the DMV area for $10k but it has 98K miles. If the car has around 98K you can easily trip to 100k within a month. I would jump on a bimmer with 50K and $11k.

See if you can negotiate to $10,500
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:28 AM   #10
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For perspective/comparison: On 1/3/15, I purchased a 2002 330i with HK, HID, automatic, leather, sport, etc. for $3000 with 101k miles. Well cared for except blown head gasket. In process of repairing head gasket which will cost me about $1800 in parts/special tools. Car replaces a totaled 2000 323i with 171k miles that insurance company valued at $5k (no way would I get that selling on my own before wrecked).
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:31 AM   #11
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I'm looking to buy this car and I'm wondering if it's worth 11,000

It's a 2004 330i with 54,000 miles
Premium, cold weather and sports package
6 speed manual
19" wheels (the ones that come on the ZHP)
Xenon headlights.

Owned by an older woman. Garaged regularly. All service done at the local BMW dealership. Clean carfax

The price seams kinda high but I may never find one with these options and such low mileage.

Everything else I see has double the mileage and is only slightly less money. Deal or no Deal? What is your gut reaction?
Not necessarily a good thing if she rode the clutch, for example.

Get it inspected! It looks like it may pan out.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:37 AM   #12
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If he is going to be firm on that price I would hold his feet to the fire and have a PPI done and make him an offer based on cold, hard facts. It sounds like an outstanding car but it's not a ZHP.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:51 AM   #13
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Not necessarily a good thing if she rode the clutch, for example.

Get it inspected! It looks like it may pan out.
good point. My wife rode the clutch and it used to drive me nuts!
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:52 AM   #14
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I'm going to see the car on Sunday. What would be a deal breaker?
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:58 AM   #15
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19" wheels (the ones that come on the ZHP)
Either you mean 18's or they are reps.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:00 AM   #16
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It sounds like a pretty good deal if the PPI goes well.

I run my 2002 330Ci with 74,4xx miles every few months just for fun and in case someone hits it and I have to deal with an insurance company. I also look for similar but high priced versions for comparison.

Anyway, this week KBB values my car at $8,461 in excellent condition. The owners might have used NADAGuides which valued it at $9,050 in excellent condition. NADAGuides does subtract out $325 for a manual and I refuse to consider that in my valuation.

I would check NADAGuides and see what value it places on the car. I would also get the VIN and run it through a decoder. I doubt an older lady put 19s on it. Maybe selling for their son? Carfax would give you the owner.

I think it is a good deal if the PPI is good and they have all service records or will get them. Good luck!
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:22 PM   #17
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Carfax doesn't list the owners name. I'm pretty sure they are the 18" style 135 wheels that come on the ZHP. Seller calls them 19" in the ad but I'm pretty sure he's wrong. I will see on Sunday.

VIN decoder only shows that non stock wheels were added

Nada has the value around 10,700 but I'm thinking Nada is retail sales like at a dealer and this is a private party.

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Old 01-16-2015, 01:52 PM   #18
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No matter what year and mileage car you buy, you will still have to spend around $1000-$1500 initially to bring the car up to date - suspension, bushings, brakes, cooling system, DME update, gaskets, plugs, fluids, etc.

I recently bought 2004 330i 6sp from Asheville as well with 47k. Shocks were frozen stuck, rubber rot. The cosmetics are perfect though...
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:03 PM   #19
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I recently bought 2004 330i 6sp from Asheville as well with 47k
Would you mind sharing what you paid for this car?
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:20 PM   #20
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how can non zhp's have 6sp? in searches they are hard to find...what package added 6sp?
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