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Old 06-03-2012, 04:18 AM   #1
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Buying An E46 Soon, Noob Questions

Hey everyone. I'll try to keep this as short as possible, but don't mind my questions, I don't know much when it comes to cars, so forgive me.

I love Bimmers, especially the E46 model... I love the way the 2000-2001 models look like.

Basically. sometime by the end of this month or early July, I'd like to get a 2000-2001 Bimmer... they seem to go for $4000-5000 here around the GTA (Greater Toronto Area).

I've heard that BMW has had issues with the E46 models, something to do with "subframes"? Apparently BMW got sued in the US, but not sure if they lost the case or not.

Do all E46 models suffer from this problem, or is it just some cars?

Let's say I bought a Bimmer that had the subframe problem (for whatever stupid reason) and took it to a BMW dealership, would they cover it or would I have to pay $5000 to fix it?

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Old 06-03-2012, 04:22 AM   #2
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Read the subframe thread
Call BMW give them the vin and see of that Bach was affected. That's what I did and they gave me the ones that were affected.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:24 AM   #3
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Buy a 2001 or newer model. These cars I am guessing has stronger sub frame than the early 1999-2000 models and I have seen almost no reports of sub frame failures on non-m3 2001-2005 e46s.
So if you do want a cheap 1999-2000 model. You have to spend $1000 or so on a subframe reinforcement kit and labour. Then you can be sure that you will be safe.
Do your math and see which is more economical for you.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:28 AM   #4
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Most common on the 323/328. It is an almost non-existent problem on the 325/330.
BMWNA may cover a percentage of the repair cost, but usually the Canadian answer in 2012 is "no", don't count on any help from the dealers.

That aside, those 4-5k cars you're seeing are usually junk, believe me I've looked at the same listings for a while now.
Spend a little more time and money in the initial investment, get the car inspected, acquire its maintenance records, and you'll be much happier.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:09 AM   #5
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Thanks everyone for responding. I really appreciate it.

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Most common on the 323/328. It is an almost non-existent problem on the 325/330.
BMWNA may cover a percentage of the repair cost, but usually the Canadian answer in 2012 is "no", don't count on any help from the dealers.

That aside, those 4-5k cars you're seeing are usually junk, believe me I've looked at the same listings for a while now.
Spend a little more time and money in the initial investment, get the car inspected, acquire its maintenance records, and you'll be much happier.
I thought those prices were too good to be true myself. But my uncle is a mechanic, replaced some parts that needed to be replaced, fixed everything and sold a BMW for 4500 I believe. It was a 1999/2000 E46 323i. Just out of curiosity, how do you know they are junk? High mileage or something? Or is that a lot of private sellers sell junk or something? lol

I'm a little bit confused.. thanks!
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