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Old 08-13-2012, 04:16 PM   #1141
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Nah. I tell them. They usually have a nice catered lunch somewhere along the line so it's a good chance to get out and network in a lovely setting.
It's interesting for me to see the difference when you accept a drink versus decline. I immediately explain why I am passing on the drinks...otherwise you're likely to be looked at like you just insulted someone's mother.


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I still can't really do more than a glass of red wine. I do really enjoy certain whites, though.
I'm less discriminating on whites. Red has to be...expensive. I had some the other night at a client dinner. It was $150/bottle. The stuff in my price range is not nearly as enjoyable.
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:22 PM   #1142
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I'm less discriminating on whites. Red has to be...expensive. I had some the other night at a client dinner. It was $150/bottle. The stuff in my price range is not nearly as enjoyable.
I'd recommend:



For the price I find it to be quite good. Well below $150.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:26 PM   #1143
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But on the inside the men envy your manliness and the woman want to fuck you.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:27 PM   #1144
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It's interesting for me to see the difference when you accept a drink versus decline. I immediately explain why I am passing on the drinks...otherwise you're likely to be looked at like you just insulted someone's mother.
I usually tell people right away that I'm LDS.

Then I tell them that their mother is a hor.


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Old 08-13-2012, 04:33 PM   #1145
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I quickly built a jacket on their website. It appears that they don't charge extra for details like a ticket pocket or working cuffs. That's pretty cool. If you order one let us know how it turns out. The pricing seems pretty reasonable.
why do all their models look like they are running a marathon?

I would try a suit unless dave posts a link to their billion dollar savings ad.
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why do all their models look like they are running a marathon?

I would try a suit unless dave posts a link to their billion dollar savings ad.
Here I come...comin' for ya...coming towards ya...in my suit... doot doot doot...
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I'd recommend:



For the price I find it to be quite good. Well below $150.
No joke I actually have a bottle of this at home (one of two bottles of alcohol in my apartment).


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I usually tell people right away that I'm LDS.

Then I tell them that their mother is a hor.

Of course you are.


Well played, Dave.


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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Here's the advertisement I referenced.

Apparently I'll save $3,221 by purchasing a tuxedo and wearing it.

I'm willing to buy into bygone theories of manliness to purchase things, but this is stupid.
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Here's the advertisement I referenced.

Apparently I'll save $3,221 by purchasing a tuxedo and wearing it.

I'm willing to buy into bygone theories of manliness to purchase things, but this is stupid.
Yep. It's a dumb ad, since it basically invites people to say "hey...that doesn't apply to me!"
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Yep. It's a dumb ad, since it basically invites people to say "hey...that doesn't apply to me!"
I'm confident I'll die without having attended 25 black tie events. Nevermind 25 in five years.
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I'm less discriminating on whites. Red has to be...expensive. I had some the other night at a client dinner. It was $150/bottle. The stuff in my price range is not nearly as enjoyable.
What is a reasonable price point for you? You'd be surprised what kinds of wine you can get in the $20-$50 price range. The higher up you go, the more the rarity factor comes to play respectively... some vineyards only produce a couple hundred cases a year which is why they cost an arm and a leg, but there are delicious and well made wines for much much less.

Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet $20ish
Duckhorn Merlot gets better every single year.. $40-$50 depending where you are
Hanna Cabernet $30
Markham Merlot $22
Protos Crianza $15
Lan Reserva $20 (best $20 bottle i've had, ever, hands down)
Silver Oak is always a favorite of mine, however it isn't exactly practical
Rombauer Merlot $30 (another incredible wine for cheap)
Clos du Bois Alexander Valley Cabernet (not the North Coast wines, they suck)
Contempo Nero D'avola $15
Cosumano Nero D'avola $15
Masi Campofiorin $20

And very surprisingly, after an hour or two decanted and strictly served at 58 degrees, Dave Matthew's "Dreaming Tree" cabernet is (unbiasedly) my favorite <$15 bottle.


These are all relatively well known wines, and in my personal preference, most will all wash down like a solid $50 bottle of wine. Some more than others, obviously... The Nero D'avola's will not have that dry big bold finish like a 20 year old cab, but they are an amazing drinkable red wine.
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I'm less discriminating on whites. Red has to be...expensive. I had some the other night at a client dinner. It was $150/bottle. The stuff in my price range is not nearly as enjoyable.
are you knowledgeable about wines?
can you pick out which one is the "expensive" wine in a blind taste test?
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are you knowledgeable about wines?
can you pick out which one is the "expensive" wine in a blind taste test?
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What is a reasonable price point for you? You'd be surprised what kinds of wine you can get in the $20-$50 price range. The higher up you go, the more the rarity factor comes to play respectively... some vineyards only produce a couple hundred cases a year which is why they cost an arm and a leg, but there are delicious and well made wines for much much less.

Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet $20ish
Duckhorn Merlot gets better every single year.. $40-$50 depending where you are
Hanna Cabernet $30
Markham Merlot $22
Protos Crianza $15
Lan Reserva $20 (best $20 bottle i've had, ever, hands down)
Silver Oak is always a favorite of mine, however it isn't exactly practical
Rombauer Merlot $30 (another incredible wine for cheap)
Clos du Bois Alexander Valley Cabernet (not the North Coast wines, they suck)
Contempo Nero D'avola $15
Cosumano Nero D'avola $15
Masi Campofiorin $20

And very surprisingly, after an hour or two decanted and strictly served at 58 degrees, Dave Matthew's "Dreaming Tree" cabernet is (unbiasedly) my favorite <$15 bottle.


These are all relatively well known wines, and in my personal preference, most will all wash down like a solid $50 bottle of wine. Some more than others, obviously... The Nero D'avola's will not have that dry big bold finish like a 20 year old cab, but they are an amazing drinkable red wine.
Whoa, thank you. I wasn't expecting this kind of response, but it does help. I just need to ge knowledgeable to the point I can order wine at dinner without looking like an a-hole. I'm going to read this later and I might follow up with some questions if that's alright



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are you knowledgeable about wines?
can you pick out which one is the "expensive" wine in a blind taste test?
I'm confident I can differentiate a $100 bottle from a $10 bottle. I'm not claiming any further from that.
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Ed: always picking fights.
not picking a fight
genuinely curious
because i find for myself that anything above $50/bottle is a waste because i can't appreciate it for the subtle differences and is not worth it to me
there are plenty of good tasting wines in the $15-35 range

pitting a $100 bottle against a $10 bottle is too easy
if you could pick out the $100 bottle from a bunch of $20-30 ones, i'd be impressed
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Is an upcharge of $200 worth it to go from half canvas to full canvas for a blazer? I've never had a full canvas jacket so I'm not particularly sure.
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Jacket $300 by itself (1/2 canvas). $200 on top of that for full canvas. It's the jacket I was talking about from www.blacklapel.com (navy blazer). No fusing on either, from my understanding.
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Well the overall price point seems good (assuming a good product in the end)
But do I think full canvas is worth $200 over the half canvas for just the jacket?
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Whoa, thank you. I wasn't expecting this kind of response, but it does help. I just need to ge knowledgeable to the point I can order wine at dinner without looking like an a-hole. I'm going to read this later and I might follow up with some questions if that's alright
Buy all means dude.. Have you seen my "wine for dummies" thread? There is some good info in that as well.

I'll tell you one thing, if you want to get into red wine, buy and open a couple bottles at a time, and smell/taste them at the same time. That is the best way to differentiate the different notes, finishes, and components that make the wine. If you buy a bottle, drink it, and then buy something a couple days later, you won't remember what the other wine tasted like.

As far as not looking like an A-hole, you really don't have to know too much about the vineyard, but more importantly the setting of where you are and what you are eating.

Fancy dinner at a nice steak house - You go very serious... Cabernet, Nebbiolo, Bordeaux, Merlot, Amarone

Lunch / lighter fare - pinot noir, sauv blanc, beajolais, pinot gris

Salmon - pinot noir and don't think of ordering anything else lol

Its funny that the time and place is as much as a factor as what you are eating as well. Obviously a more formal setting is grounds for a more serious wine, red or white... where as a less formal event would constitute a less serious, fruitful, fun wine. Spanish reds are great... Crianzas are extremely drinkable and anything from the Tempranillo grape is lovely.

As far as whites go, i'm not partial to them unless i'm cracking some oysters open and steaming a lobster. While I do enjoy them, I can respectively find a suitable red wine for any occasion and/or dish.

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Is an upcharge of $200 worth it to go from half canvas to full canvas for a blazer? I've never had a full canvas jacket so I'm not particularly sure.
If it were for a suit, I would say yes, but for a (casual) blazer, no.
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