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Old 09-05-2012, 04:25 PM   #101
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This is not a bad idea if you don't care about being active duty.

I'm currently assigned as an Army National Guard OCS Instructor/Trainer. There are two routes here for 09S (officer candidate MOS): accelerated (go to basic, go to OCS for eight weeks, graduate and commission), and traditional (go to basic, two weeks of phase one, fourteen months of phase two, two weeks phase three, graduation and commissioning).

Sounds like the Army has shortened OCS. When I went it 8 weeks Basic and 14 weeks OCS.
Did you go the federal route?
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:36 PM   #102
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Well first I had to test. Then get a profile folder put together with picture and letters of recommendation. Then I got selected for an interview in front of 3 officers at the Federal building in Seattle. Then it was off to 8 weeks basic at Ft. Lenardwood in the winter.
After that they bussed us down to Ft. Benning Ga. for 14 weeks of OCS.
So if that is the Federal route...
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:41 PM   #103
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Yeah, that's federal OCS. Another Fellow Winter at the Wood guy, eh? I've done two there, both miserably cold.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:22 PM   #104
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I got the second to the last Engineer Officer Basic course at Ft. Belvuor. The Army was going to put all of it's Engineer training at Lenardwood. I said no way was I going back to that H hole!!!
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:46 PM   #105
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I forgot what this thread was about, but I'm going to vent anyways. My TBS report date is now October 2013. You have to be kidding me...
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:16 PM   #106
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I got the second to the last Engineer Officer Basic course at Ft. Belvuor. The Army was going to put all of it's Engineer training at Lenardwood. I said no way was I going back to that H hole!!!
Wow, you're really dating yourself here! :-p

I would have loved to do OBC at Belvoir, it's right around the corner from home. But no, I did OBC and CCC out there at lost in the woods. Second time around was definitely better than the first, though.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:20 PM   #107
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I forgot what this thread was about, but I'm going to vent anyways. My TBS report date is now October 2013. You have to be kidding me...
That sucks. You've already been waiting a while, haven't you?
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:13 PM   #108
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That sucks. You've already been waiting a while, haven't you?
Yes. Well, some of it is my fault since I pushed and pushed to change my contract from Air to Reserve, but it's been a while. I'll probably be a 1st Lt. by the time I get to Quantico.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:46 PM   #109
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Hello again everyone, I come bearing updates: (Swish I STILL am meaning to get around to calling you )

With my graduation this upcoming spring season, I've been forced to do some serious thinking about a lot of things. I will cut to the chase, I've decided I am enlisting in the Air Force

But you'll have a bachelors degree!?
True. Which is good because now I'll start at E3, with my intention on having a career in the military, I have no need to rush into becoming an officer just yet.

Why not wait until you can commission and just get a civilian job?
Another option I thought heavily about, but I'll have a degree in Psychology, which essentially requires graduate school to get a job in any reputable field. I am just simply done with school, I'm going to beast out my senior year, and thats going to be that. Some people are just done with school, others can go on to graduate and post graduate... Not this guy. I'm not bad in school either, just simply done with this part of my life.

Why do I want to enlist over commissioning into another service?
Student loans will begin to collect 6 months post graduation. I'll owe my school about $30k which isn't bad at all now a days for college debt. That said, I need to leave before this time period so that I can begin to pay off college debt promptly. The waiting list for the Air Force OTS is far past 6 months, and to be honest the only other service I would consider commissioning into would be the Army, but I'm not sure that its for me. All in all, my GPA is not impressive enough to commission right now being its a 3.0 out of 4.0 with a major in a non technical field.

Whats the dream sheet look like?
If all goes the way I plan it, which I know is rare, I will enlist in the AF. I very much want to be part of enlisted Air Crew, with most preference on becoming an aircraft loadmaster. I will put Travis AFB as my #1 base on my dream sheet where I could be stationed with my little brother, a C-17 Crew Chief. I want to be enlisted and work with my hands, travel the world, maybe get overseas for a tour or two, and then in at the end of my 4 year enlistment, my college debt will be history, I'll have benefits established, a future setup fpr myself, and then attempt to commission with prior enlistment on my record. If not, I'll evaluate if I want to enlist again. By that time, my current girlfriend will have graduated the same college I am about to, and (not jinxing this) I will ask her to marry me and move out with me. This is the one thing I am sure of at this point.

Talked to my recruiter, this coming fall break from classes is when I'll go take my ASVAB and physical and such.

A massive thank you goes out to everyone who posted in this thread with ideas and different routes. I continue you to please keep them coming because I know many many people find themselves in the same situation as me and could benefit from this thread. Thanks very much guys.
Congrats man... Call whenever! Ps: I officially retired from active duty last Thursday .
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So I ets at the end of the month and I'm kinda nervous about it. Any advice or suggestions?
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #111
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So I ets at the end of the month and I'm kinda nervous about it. Any advice or suggestions?
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Only plan I have so far is college. Computer science major, business minor.

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Tight job market right now, most people I know that got out ended up missing it.

Good luck though.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:09 AM   #113
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Good luck though.
When I got out after 10 I started to build helicopters for MD. Did that for 3 years, then I started to miss working on F-16s so I hired on with Lockheed. Did that for a year to get my fix. Now Im good and want to finish up school...LOL.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:11 AM   #114
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So I ets at the end of the month and I'm kinda nervous about it. Any advice or suggestions?
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What was your MOS? No numbers....actual description. Im ex-AF...lol. I can point you in the right direction with most jobs.
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Heavy diesel mechanic after two years of infantry.

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Old 09-06-2012, 10:51 AM   #116
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In fact, there were quite a few jobs for heavy diesel mechs overseas paying some good money that I just saw. If you want an infantry-type job like security...I can ask a few buddies that are contractors...
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If you want to pm me with some of the mech jobs you've seen. I've looked into a few but the company's were so so at best.

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Been thinkning about join up my self. Im stuck in between nuclear mechanic for the navy and Engineering officer for the army. I know there is a big gap in between the 2 but I love both topics. Another reason why I want to join is so I can finish up school. I know I want to go back but money isnt letting me do that right now and I feel like if I keep waiting and wating im gonna go no where.
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Sorry to thread jack but I didn't want to start a whole new thread. I'm thinking of joining the Army with a BA. Recruiter thought it would be a better idea to join as enlisted instead of going straight to an officer. He suggested learning how everything works first and then trying to go for OCS. Can anyone give me some input on this? Suggestions? 26 yrs old and married
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:02 PM   #120
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Sorry to thread jack but I didn't want to start a whole new thread. I'm thinking of joining the Army with a BA. Recruiter thought it would be a better idea to join as enlisted instead of going straight to an officer. He suggested learning how everything works first and then trying to go for OCS. Can anyone give me some input on this? Suggestions? 26 yrs old and married
Yes...your recruiter is an idiot and you should go through someone else. DONT EVER let someone talk you into downgrading a job/pay. Thats messing with your life. Why the Army I ask?
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