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Old 11-18-2012, 10:20 AM   #101
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Ugh, sorry to hear. You going to be alright?
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:18 PM   #102
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I'm good. Not running the marathon I was planning on Thursday. Learned some lessons on gear and training. I twisted my knee a few weeks ago so I should of saw it coming. Course was fun though, tough mudder at night is a whole new level. Everyone should try to qualify just to experience it.

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:24 AM   #103
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Sorry to hear about the injury, RossGuy. You gave it more effort than 99.9% of the population. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be.

You mentioned learning lessons about gear and training. What would you have done differently?
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:58 PM   #104
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It's meant to be, trust me. I'm already looking to possibly do the Miami one just to bang out a qualifier right off the bat. I think the worst part was not even being tired after two laps, very frustrating. I could of done another lap or two but didn't want to risk further injury. No point in tearing an ACL or something to be out for 6 months, then ruin chances at Death Race. Next year I'll be ready for sure.

As far as training lessons go.

-wish I would of had more time to get ready and run.
-need to work more on grip strength and toughening my hands ( maybe due to glove selection)
-more jump box training and leg workouts

Gear lessons

-my dive gloves sucked. Very hard to get on and off and I wasn't able to grip as hard as I needed.
-should of been prepared to suck it up a bit more and brought my mechanix gloves. Most of the race I didn't wear gloves so I could grip more.
-this was the first time using a camelbak and I don't think it was worth it. I never saw the point in using one for a TM, but thought it was a good idea for the number of laps I planned to do. Taking it off for a few obstacles was a pain.
-should of brought swimming cap rather than just the wetsuit hoods.

Mentally I wasn't where I needed to be. People backing out and travel changes at the last second added to it. My friend that went with wasn't very supportive and was more concerned about hookers and casinos than the race.

My tent looked like a bomb went off inside. Should of brought Christmas lights like some people did and organized better.

Should of cheated like other people and brought heaters, mp3 players, open flame stuff into there tent. Some guy had his wife bring him a pizza.

Next year I need to go alone or have someone run it with me. I already told my brother to man up and sign up this time when he qualifies.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:08 PM   #105
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Damn that sucks man. I think it's good that you decided to call it when you did...no reason hurting yourself and possibly being out longer (b/c of injury) just over a little bit of pride. If you were almost done i'd say man up of course but you have to listen to the body sometimes.

I'm planning on doing quite a few of these in 2013, possibly getting the pass as I said. Most surely do the Chicago one, plus Arizona/Dallas/Michigan and possibly other ones a bit closer to me if I can drive down. If by chance I qualify or whatever I'd be more than up to do this main event with you.

Congrats on just getting there! Be proud of that accomplishment.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:43 PM   #106
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I'll see you at the Chicago one for sure. Not sure how many I'll do next year, want to fit in the Goruck challenge and spartan races in there too. Speaking of next year, I plan to run as many laps all weekend as I can at every TM I do. I thought it'd be a good idea, then over heard some other guys I was with say that's what they did to train.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:44 PM   #107
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:45 PM   #108
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Here's the news article I submitted to Death Race organizers. Pretty cheesy and some things are taken out of context or not true, but IDGAF.

http://www.journal-topics.com/busine...9bb30f31a.html

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:13 AM   #109
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:44 AM   #110
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Just got my story confirmation.

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Congrats. By submitting this article about yourself participating in the Spartan Death Race in the Arlington Heights Journal newspaper, you have completed the Spartan Death Race Media Challenge. Please be sure to post this article on Facebook to share with all of your friends.



Also, please save a copy of this email as proof that you have completed the task.



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http://www.journal-topics.com/busine...9bb30f31a.html


Also,
Finally went to the doc about my knee. Have to go to physical therapy first and if that doesn't help then knee specialist. They also found a I broke a chunk off in my knee cap but said if it doesnt hurt then leave it.

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Old 01-21-2013, 10:39 AM   #111
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Date: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:10 AM
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Spartan Death Race FREE PASS


Dear Ross,
This email is exclusively for 2013 Death Racers who participated in the event in 2011 or 2012 and were not required to complete the 2013 Spartan Death Race Media Challenge. Please be sure to read it ASAP and Carefully. Death Race Rookies do not need to read this.

We are pleased to provide Spartan Death Race veterans who completed the Media Challenge in 2011 or 2012 with your first challenge. The 2013 Spartan Death Race FREE PASS.

As you know, the Media Challenge this year is only REQUIRED for Death Race Rookies. But based upon the success you have all had securing media stories in the past, we wanted to encourage you to still get a media story placed. But rather than penalize you for not securing an article, we are going to reward you for it with a FREE PASS which will allow to skip a challenge at the 2013 Spartan Death Race.

For all Spartan Death Race Veterans, here's the requirement. Between now and June 13, 2013, tell the world that you will be attempting the Spartan Death Race again by securing a media story about it. This can include a local newspaper or television outlet. If you did newspaper last year, we recommend you push for TV this year.

Once you secure the article, post a link on your Facebook and email a link or a PDF of the printed article or TV story to our "Media Sheriff" Doug Drotman at doug@drotmanpr.com.

Doug will send you a confirmation that you have completed the media challenge. Make sure to bring his email confirmation to Pittsfield so you can cash it in for your FREE PASS during the race to skip a challenge. If you need assistance identifying local media outlets or if you are unsure if a media outlet will qualify, Doug is available to help. Simply email him and he will provide local media information and assistance.

If you have any question about the Spartan Death Race FREE PASS please contact Doug at doug@drotmanpr.com -- do not contact Andy or Joe about this. If you must contact Andy or Joe about this, use these special email addresses QuitComplaining@TooBad.com or LifeisFullofAdversity@DealWithIt.com


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First run of the season accomplished! What a blast, the entire atmosphere was amazing...loved the camaraderie that existed between everyone that ran. Individuals, groups, pairs. Everyone gave a helping hand along the way and tons of support. Kicked my butt a little but pushed through. Was a great feeling making your way up and obstacle and getting a helping hand from someone you'd never met before, then turning around and waiting a few seconds to help up those who were following. Looking forward to the race in Vegas next For anyone that has considered doing one, find a date and sign up. The groups that ran together were amazing. Soldiers w/ missing limbs, a guy w/ an O2 tank, one guy who was partially blind....stop making excuses and get it done. It isn't necessarily a timed race by any means unless you make that choice yourself. Just keep pushing yourself to the next obstacle.

My friend did a hell of a job running around and taking photos, really glad she was there. Think she ended up running 4 miles herself just between the obstacles Once I get my GoPro video uploaded and edited, cam got muddy as fvck, I will edit it and see about uploading!









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Old 02-25-2013, 01:34 PM   #113
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Congrats dude! I've never seen that colored water under the fencing.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:15 AM   #114
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Congrats dude! I've never seen that colored water under the fencing.
Thanks man. Was a lot of fun. Came down on my heel a little rough off a jump into the mud about 6 miles in but pushed through. That crawl was a fun one; plus it came perfectly timed as there had been a bit of time between water obstacles so very refreshing. People appeared to struggle as they wanted to use their feet/whole body more than they needed. I just let my body become buoyant in the water and floated along the top while pulling myself w/ the fencing.

Bit of curiosity for you. What do you figure a decent time is for an average race? I am understanding of the top 5% factor and it can vary completely but wouldn't mind trying to gauge where I sat. I feel pretty good about my time as no one in my heat lapped passed me, outside of a single guy who lead from the beginning. I found myself passing quite a few people along the way, from earlier heats. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather, just figured as you've qualified as you have it would be good to ask someone w/ previous experience.
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Thanks man. Was a lot of fun. Came down on my heel a little rough off a jump into the mud about 6 miles in but pushed through. That crawl was a fun one; plus it came perfectly timed as there had been a bit of time between water obstacles so very refreshing. People appeared to struggle as they wanted to use their feet/whole body more than they needed. I just let my body become buoyant in the water and floated along the top while pulling myself w/ the fencing.

Bit of curiosity for you. What do you figure a decent time is for an average race? I am understanding of the top 5% factor and it can vary completely but wouldn't mind trying to gauge where I sat. I feel pretty good about my time as no one in my heat lapped passed me, outside of a single guy who lead from the beginning. I found myself passing quite a few people along the way, from earlier heats. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather, just figured as you've qualified as you have it would be good to ask someone w/ previous experience.
The best time I've ever done was 1hr 59 min. That was including an extra mile on accident due to not seeing one of the course markers. The fastest for the that one (Wisconsin) I heard was 1hr 20 min. Some how that was top 5%, I never got passed and flew past alot of people including people that started 40min before me.

It really depends on the course and your start time. The last one was really flat and open so times were lower. I've done other ones ranging from mid 2hrs to right at 3hrs(stress fractures). At WTM I averaged 3hr lap times with stopping at my tent and conserving my energy. I'd say anything under 3hrs is respectable, closer to 2hrs is pretty good. If you dont start in the first or second heat, you'll be pushing past people and getting caught up by fat people on the obstacles.

You should get an email to submit your time for qualifying. Enter your time and see if you made the cut. Luckily, I found out I pre-qualify since I did it last year. A blessing since I'm dealing with shine splints and hip and ankle problems right now. Along with my knee still not 100%, bad shoulder, and knots in my neck......aka I'm falling apart. As of right now I don't know if I'm even doing the deah race.

Ps- get some TRI shorts or compression shorts and thank me later.
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The best time I've ever done wa 1hr 59 min. That was including an extra mile on accident due to not seeing one of the course markers. The fastest for the that one (Wisconsin) I heard was 1hr 20 min. Some how that was top 5%, I never got passed and flew past alot of people including people that started 40min before me.

It really depends on the course and your start time. The last one was really flat and open so times were lower. I've done other ones ranging from mid 2hrs to right at 3hrs(stress fractures). At WTM I averaged 3hr lap times with stopping at my tent and conserving my energy. I'd say anything under 3hrs is respectable, closer to 2hrs is pretty good. If you dont start in the first or second heat, you'll be pushing past people and getting caught up by fat people on the obstacles.

You should get an email to submit your time for qualifying. Enter your time and see if you made the cut. Luckily, I found out I pre-qualify since I did it last year. A blessing since I'm dealing with shine splints and hip and ankle problems right now. Along with my knee still not 100%, bad shoulder, and knots in my neck......aka I'm falling apart. As of right now I don't know if I'm even doing the deah race.

Ps- get some TRI shorts or compression shorts and thank me later.
Awesome thanks man I finished in 2h 25min, so was pretty content with it. I entered my time so will just wait and see. Appreciate having a few numbers to compare to. I started in the second to last heat and bruised my ankle pretty good halfway through so I'm not to upset with my time any. But fvck, 1hr 2min is ridiculous...10 min mile plus obstacles.

I will definitely do one of the first heats for the Vegas one in April, running past and dealing w/ people wears on you more than you realize. I did find most people had some hesitation on obstacles and I was just able to go past them...didn't even hesitate when going off the high jump

Appreciate the advice on the shorts. I have always been partial to the Nike running style w/ the liner but will look into the compression shorts to wear as well. Sh!tty about being broken man...that is no fun at all. Hopefully re-couping goes well enough. Still planning to be out your way mid may for one so hopefully you'll be well enough if you want to run in it!
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Awesome thanks man I finished in 2h 25min, so was pretty content with it. I entered my time so will just wait and see. Appreciate having a few numbers to compare to. I started in the second to last heat and bruised my ankle pretty good halfway through so I'm not to upset with my time any. But fvck, 1hr 2min is ridiculous...10 min mile plus obstacles.

I will definitely do one of the first heats for the Vegas one in April, running past and dealing w/ people wears on you more than you realize. I did find most people had some hesitation on obstacles and I was just able to go past them...didn't even hesitate when going off the high jump

Appreciate the advice on the shorts. I have always been partial to the Nike running style w/ the liner but will look into the compression shorts to wear as well. Sh!tty about being broken man...that is no fun at all. Hopefully re-couping goes well enough. Still planning to be out your way mid may for one so hopefully you'll be well enough if you want to run in it!
I was actually just talking with a co-worker if we're going to sign up for it. I should know in a few weeks. I just started this thing called dartfish at my brothers work. Hopefully that and some other therapy helps. Shin splints and stress fractures have been plaguing me for the past two years. The blocking it out and pushing on is starting to catch up with me. From bmx,mx,racing, etc. I fell old as f@ck for 28.

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Vegas Mudder completed. A few different obstacles this time around and the course had a larger amount of elevation change than the Arizona race. Added some variety to the race and makes me that much happier than my training includes trail runs to be comfortable running in that.

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Quite a few people went down with cramping a long the way and a few injuries. Happy to be competing in these and doing more. I still have bad recollections of the damn shocking portions, just have to push through but I think the image/memory will always be the worst part of the runs.
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Death at W. Virgina Tough Mudder. Individual passed away a day later in local hospital, cause deemed to be from drowning. Link Quote below from TM spokeswoman about moving forward. At least he signed the Death Waiver

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