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Driveline, Engine & DME Tuning
Talk about driveline improvements, NA tuning and DME tuning your E46 BMW here. This includes diffs, intakes, exhausts, chips, software and OBD tuning.

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Old 06-22-2012, 11:54 PM   #1
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Turbo consideration

Im new to bmw and so far im not very convinced, yea bmw makes these cars to push optimum performance but so far im getting humiliated by 4beaters! Needless to say Im not to happy. Im looking into forced induction, i want a good reliable kit, i dont know wats better turbo or supercharger, im leaning more to quick acceleration. Some people say turbo, i need experienced advice.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:28 AM   #2
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I believe they have turbo kits for the 330. Best bet is to supercharge it. Ess, vf or AA are your best choice

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Old 06-23-2012, 10:16 AM   #3
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What is the difference between turbo and supercharger?
Why do u think there aren't any kits for e46 328's?
I dont know much about these engines....im more of a american muscle kind of guy trying to explore new things but apparently its biting me in the ass!
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:42 AM   #4
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What do you mean?

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Old 06-23-2012, 10:44 AM   #5
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If you actually want to go fast, Technique Tuning turbo is the way to go. Superchargers on our cars are overrated. All top end TQ. Pointless.
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:49 AM   #6
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If you actually want to go fast, Technique Tuning turbo is the way to go. Superchargers on our cars are overrated. All top end TQ. Pointless.
But the turbo kits are way too expensive. You can find a used supercharger for half the price if not less

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Old 06-23-2012, 01:38 PM   #7
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I dont mind the money, i just want a rush as soon as i hit the gas, but my question still is what is the difference between the two?
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Even has a Turbo vs Supercharger section
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo

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Old 06-23-2012, 03:38 PM   #9
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Thanks man! That explains a bit more than what i knew!! Never to old to learn something new! So according to that turbo is better! Since the supercharger uses the camshaft to spin that takes possible power away instead of putting it to the wheels. Am i right??
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:48 PM   #10
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Thanks man! That explains a bit more than what i knew!! Never to old to learn something new! So according to that turbo is better! Since the supercharger uses the camshaft to spin that takes possible power away instead of putting it to the wheels. Am i right??
Put it this way. Get a ESS TS2 or go turbo

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Old 06-23-2012, 09:05 PM   #11
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Ess ts2 dosent make them for e46 328ci. What turbo do u recommend?
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I dont mind the money, i just want a rush as soon as i hit the gas, but my question still is what is the difference between the two?
There's your answer: turbo, and to a lesser extend the ESS TS2. None of the normal superchargers will give you that instant V8 like power from low RPM.
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Put it this way. Get a ESS TS2 or go turbo

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Old 06-23-2012, 09:22 PM   #13
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Ess ts2 dosent make them for e46 328ci. What turbo do u recommend?
Its on their website. Esstuning.com

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Old 06-24-2012, 09:45 AM   #14
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Exactly!! Thats wat i was trying to say! I just couldnt find the correct words! I guess i miss that v8 power. I was wondering dose a supercharged bmw guzzle as much gas as a v8? Or dose it have that mini monster kick and keep 6 cylinder drivability untill u floor it?
ESS TS2 is a supercharger.....not turbo....dont superchargers have alot of lag time?
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Exactly!! Thats wat i was trying to say! I just couldnt find the correct words! I guess i miss that v8 power. I was wondering dose a supercharged bmw guzzle as much gas as a v8? Or dose it have that mini monster kick and keep 6 cylinder drivability untill u floor it?
ESS TS2 is a supercharger.....not turbo....dont superchargers have alot of lag time?
Lag time? Its not a turbo. Plus the TS2 get full boost in low rpm range. Unlike other superchargers.

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Old 06-24-2012, 10:07 AM   #16
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mileage will vary depending on how much you put your foot into it. First and foremost: Check your car. It's 12 years old. Have you checked every other part on it, to be sure that adding more power to it won't just rip your possibly-already failing subframe to shreds, and that your cooling system has been refreshed to handle it. Making your car reliable as possible while stock should be your first goal. Now, if all this stuff has already been done and you have the records to prove it, then you can go one.

Also, supercharger power is always on. Turbo's are where you hear about lag. A lot of systems nowadays minimize that to an extent, and typically can yield more output than a supercharger. Keep in mind the following: You might see 100 hp on a SC. Which puts you to where LT1s 20 years ago were, and where a lot of new mid-size cars are too. It's been said on here, that if you want a faster car, buy a faster car. These cars are excellent cars to own, but they aren't a rocket. If speed was such a factor in your driving pleasure, you should've done a lot more research before purchasing. I love my 328. It's hands down the best car I've ever owned when it comes to fit, feel, and form. Yes, it needs care, but all cars will anyway. Might I go forced induction someday? Maybe. But it will be to add a little more to mine, not to suddenly compete with everyone else in a race. The way I explained it to some kid locally who was running his mouth about his car: I don't care what you're little BOV-popping Civic hatch can do in the 1/8th or what you think those stickers add to the wheels. When I get there only a short time later, I'm still driving a nice car, you're still driving a Honda, and there's a reason your girlfriend keeps looking at mine.

All I can say, is make sure your car is up to par before doing anything to it. And do a LOT more research than "which one do I get?" on a thread. There are plenty of threads here and builds by people who have taken the time to do it. At the very least, find a reputable shop in your area, and get some answers from what they've done with previous E46s, and what they recommend. Any good shop will give you honest answers about what to expect in both directions.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:57 AM   #17
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Whoa! Thats a reality check! Haha dam! You know ur right ChralzO! Now that i really think about it i didnt go for bmw just because of performance reputation i had heard of....i buts my ass working and the main reason i got my current car is because i decided i deserve to treat myself! I guess since im used to working on my old 351 ford i kind of miss it and without knowing i kinda wanted to make it feel the same with a bmw, which obviously one cant do! I guess ima keep the car i have stock for my nice comfortable daily driver and maybe have a cobra in the garage! Haha for the occasional fun drive.
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But i will tune up my car like u said it is old!
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:15 PM   #19
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Nah, just awaken by reality. Haha im still gana modify my car...just not performance wise...im just gana go more cosmetic than anything else im still a fanatic. I gata admit the bodies on theses cars intrigue me....i like them. I like curves! Lines! Body shadows....i dont judge a car by the brand...but by the body! By true automotive beauty!
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:34 PM   #20
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Go to the Forced Induction section on this forum and read all the threads.
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