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Old 02-19-2015, 03:32 PM   #1
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Stock Rear shock/spring options

Hey guys I brought my car in for an inspection today and was told i needed to replace the rear shocks and springs. I was expecting RTABs but they didnt even bring it up.

I'm wondering if people are just doing the OEM DIY or generally replacing with something aftermarket. I was quoted $1,050 for rear shocks and springs and i don't mind doing them myself but it seems like everything OEM is pricey (almost $200 for a spring!). If that is the case so be it i will spend the money but if people are tending to go in a different direction I will play sheep and follow the herd.

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Old 02-19-2015, 04:04 PM   #2
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Rear springs and shocks are an incredibly easy job. Also, being quoted over $1K is comical.

What are you looking for? OE feel, more comfort, a little more sportiness, moderately more aggressive, etc.?
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:07 PM   #3
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I don't think $1K is too comical for this. $200/OE Spring plus $150 per OE shock? $700 in parts right there.

However, OP, you could get new springs all around, and new struts/shocks for just a little more than that if you went aftermarket. And if you DIY, you'll save a huge chunk.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:15 PM   #4
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Hey guys I brought my car in for an inspection today and was told i needed to replace the rear shocks and springs. I was expecting RTABs but they didnt even bring it up.

I'm wondering if people are just doing the OEM DIY or generally replacing with something aftermarket. I was quoted $1,050 for rear shocks and springs and i don't mind doing them myself but it seems like everything OEM is pricey (almost $200 for a spring!). If that is the case so be it i will spend the money but if people are tending to go in a different direction I will play sheep and follow the herd.

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Monroe OES Spectrum line are great OEM replacement at a fraction of the cost. Plus lifetime warranty on them, it is a great deal.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:22 PM   #5
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OP, this would be one way to go about it on the affordable side. If you could find them here on E46F from a member, they'd probably be even cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-BMW-E46...ba9ccb&vxp=mtr

You'll need two of these.
http://www.amazon.com/KYB-343352-Exc.../dp/B000C40SBK

Monroes aren't available for the Xi chassis.

EDIT: Monroe 5988's will fit perfectly, even though they're not listed.
http://www.amazon.com/Monroe-5988-OE...pr_product_top

Total price, ~$240 dollars / OR ~$216 with Monroe's.


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I don't think $1K is too comical for this. $200/OE Spring plus $150 per OE shock? $700 in parts right there.

However, OP, you could get new springs all around, and new struts/shocks for just a little more than that if you went aftermarket. And if you DIY, you'll save a huge chunk.
I find it comical because you can find superior quality in the aftermarket at a fraction of the cost.

$200 (per spring) for OE vs. $250 (full set) for H&R Sport springs.

$300 for OE shocks that have a maximum usable life of 80K miles vs. $200 for Koni STR.T's that are better performing and have a lifetime warranty.

I'm a huge proponent of going OE where it counts. Struts/shocks/springs, however, is the last area I'll take the OE route.
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Get your OEM spring part number, and check RockAuto for the matching one from KYB. I bought KYB springs shipped from Great Britain via FedEx Express in 2 days for $140 CAD. Cheaper than OEM, FCPEuro and ECSTuning.
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I find it comical because you can find superior quality in the aftermarket at a fraction of the cost.



$200 (per spring) for OE vs. $250 (full set) for H&R Sport springs.



$300 for OE shocks that have a maximum usable life of 80K miles vs. $200 for Koni STR.T's that are better performing and have a lifetime warranty.



I'm a huge proponent of going OE where it counts. Struts/shocks/springs, however, is the last area I'll take the OE route.

Well yeah for sure but it's not like the mechanic is reaming him, which is what I thought you were implying.
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Wow thanks for all the help. I'm looking for oe feel but more importantly i dont want to sacrifice any reliability. I'm not really interested in lowering the car; the roads here in maine are junk.

So right now i'm looking at going Rob's route which is ebay the springs and grab some fair monroe 5988 for a couple hundred bucks.

Or Knight is recommending something like H&R sport springs with koni street shocks. Let's say i go the full set, that's like 650 for all four corners. Not bad but i just don't know that i need the konis and i dont think i want to lower the car with the H&R.

I guess i will see what i can get the monroes for locally and order the springs.

Saber i checked rockauto with my spring part number. They look surprisingly cheap but they dont have any kyb; only kilen, boge and monroe. How do you think a monroe spring would compare to OE? The descriptions are a little confusing so i'm not sure how confident i am in ordering. Consistent wire diameter vs inconsistent wire diameter? 2 pigtail ends? Heavy duty?

This is why i dont use rock auto haha.
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Wow thanks for all the help. I'm looking for oe feel but more importantly i dont want to sacrifice any reliability. I'm not really interested in lowering the car; the roads here in maine are junk.

So right now i'm looking at going Rob's route which is ebay the springs and grab some fair monroe 5988 for a couple hundred bucks.

Or Knight is recommending something like H&R sport springs with koni street shocks. Let's say i go the full set, that's like 650 for all four corners. Not bad but i just don't know that i need the konis and i dont think i want to lower the car with the H&R.

I guess i will see what i can get the monroes for locally and order the springs.

Saber i checked rockauto with my spring part number. They look surprisingly cheap but they dont have any kyb; only kilen, boge and monroe. How do you think a monroe spring would compare to OE? The descriptions are a little confusing so i'm not sure how confident i am in ordering. Consistent wire diameter vs inconsistent wire diameter? 2 pigtail ends? Heavy duty?

This is why i dont use rock auto haha.
Yeah it was a bit confusing to find it at first especially since it lists for the Euro markets only and supposedly the different models have varying spring part numbers.

I did the easy thing and went on FCPEuro, found the rear spring, saw it's the same between all the E46 sedans without sports suspension. Then it was just browsing and finding a spring.

2001 325i, Suspension, Coil Spring, KYB EUROPE Part # RX6200, should cost about $105 shipped for both springs.

Since you have an xi like I do, two options listed for shock absorbers, Bilstein Touring B4 19220598 ($62 each) or Bilstein Sport/HD 24024532 ($131 each).
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Go with bilstein touring or Koni for shocks/struts paired with OE springs and you will be a happy customer. I don't know how the Monroe products are but I know there cheaper line is junk, especially on bad roads. I do know that Koni and bilstein are tried and true.
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Well yeah for sure but it's not like the mechanic is teaming him, which is what I thought you were implying.
That's fair, I should have been clearer on where I was coming from.

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Or Knight is recommending something like H&R sport springs with koni street shocks. Let's say i go the full set, that's like 650 for all four corners. Not bad but i just don't know that i need the konis and i dont think i want to lower the car with the H&R.
You could also go with Eibach Pro Kit springs for a more compliant ride. Only reason I'm mentioning springs is because you included them in your initial pricing, so I assumed your factory ones were shot.

Another option would be Bilstein Touring struts/shocks on the original springs (if they are still usable). I just purchased a 325i with brand new Bilstein Touring struts/shocks and the ride is very smooth.
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Why would you need to replace the springs? Safety issue? I guess I just don't hear about springs needing to be replaced very often.
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Why would you need to replace the springs? Safety issue? I guess I just don't hear about springs needing to be replaced very often.

Given his location they're probably very rusted.
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:03 AM   #15
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I just bought 2 Koni str.t rear shocks for my 325ci. Haven't put them on yet. It is cheaper and life time warranty but you won't expect much on it. I drive my car for 30 mins daily commute so it should be good enough for me.
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For starters, who even told you your springs needed to be replaced? Your mechanic is most certainly reaming you if he told you that. Where is this crap coming from that people think springs wear out?
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For starters, who even told you your springs needed to be replaced? Your mechanic is most certainly reaming you if he told you that. Where is this crap coming from that people think springs wear out?
Springs can "wear out," especially if other suspension components are bad and left for a long time, but it's definitely pretty unlikely that the OP's are failing unless there's some noticeable problem. That said, in my experience a lot of shops will try to sell you on the idea that springs should always be replaced alongside shocks/struts.
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Springs can "wear out,"
Yeah, no they can't.
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Rear springs can crack. That I and many others can attest to. Springs should not wear out under normal operation. They can be compromised when other outside factors stress the spring beyond what it's designed to handle (ie. extremely fast compression and rebound, going over speed bumps too fast).
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This is a BMW we're talking about, not a Ford.
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