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Old 07-09-2012, 12:26 PM   #1
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puffs a blue smoke cloud on start up..

Hey all, my beamer has been free of CEL & only in need of rear bushing refresh...

But my mother toyota 2006 camry le is puffing blue smoke on cold start up,

How could I fix this?

This would be my first valve seal job or lets say the first time I will be opening a engine to change seals ... most likely lead me to do the same to my Bmw if ever needed. ( two different engines) I know!

http://www.justanswer.com/toyota/6dr...oud-start.html

Sry that's a toyota on Bmw forum, but this is the only forum I could trust to ask the car fanatics ...

I have seafoam from 5 months purchased and never used..

Would it help?

What could help the engine?

I did not notice any brownish on oil cap.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:31 PM   #2
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Seafoam will not aid an oil leak. Get a compression test.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #3
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The answers you got in your link sound right on the money to me. Follow that advice.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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Seafoam will not aid an oil leak. Get a compression test.
ok... compression test on its way..

Would this job be difficult and what kinda tools required??

It has 100k miles ... I any link to a diy or advice on seal job?
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:11 PM   #5
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Likely hardened valve stem seals.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:15 PM   #6
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I would start by getting ahold of a factory style service manual.

Asking if its hard to do really isnt that good of a question. We dont know your expertise. Anytime you have to take the head off, I would assume is a "difficult" task.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #7
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Likely hardened valve stem seals.
Yes mango, but would this be appropriate job for me to do ?

My problem is that I don't know the process require to do this job for my lovely mother...

Please help ya! She just got into payments not even 6 months ago ..

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I would start by getting ahold of a factory style service manual.

Asking if its hard to do really isnt that good of a question. We dont know your expertice. Anytime you have to take the head off, I would assume is a "difficult" task.
A little time reading the manual will tell you whether it's practical to DIY at your expertise level. It's a good investment anyway.
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Without specialized tools or knowledge, not really something the average DIYer can do. Not quite sure how Toyotas are laid out but I'm pretty sure this is generally not easy.
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compression test just needs the right tools. tools can be expensive and find minimal use. Do you have a compressor?
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OP,

So blue smoke is generally considered to be burning oil, guess you know...but there could be other causes besides something internal to the engine.

I'm sure the Toyota has a PCV (our CCV) and that could lead to blue smoke also afaik.

There is an awful lot you'd need to know to get into her engine if you needed to, and if you're going for it, the best advice I can offer is to just remember that you learn to put things together by paying attention when you take them apart!

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D, all you did was tell OP "it could be anything" and to not be an idiot. lol.

I don't think it helped.
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google EGR valve your the Tojota. Get a gasket un bolt spray down with carb cleaner and bolt back up. Tune-up item that gets over looked often.

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As has been said, valve seals would certainly do this. It is a fairly common problem on higher mileage Toyotas. Assuming it is the valve seals, unless you are burning through oil, it is a problem that is likely not worth addressing until there are other reasons to break the head seal.

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Old 07-09-2012, 06:49 PM   #15
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google EGR valve your the Tojota. Get a gasket un bolt spray down with carb cleaner and bolt back up. Tune-up item that gets over looked often.
okay, i did Google it & it has to do with EMISSIONS dude... not oil burning...


Toyota does not have (Oil separator) wdf?
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Okay,

Bearing failure - Blue smoke under acceleration & driving (Indication that engine is at the end of its life

stem valves failure - Very common on high mileage cars (NOT MY E46) =] Ultimate machine...


I was advised to put ATF fluid in the engine and idle for 15min (DO not accelerate) then flush and put new high mileage OIL. (Only helps today and not problem solver)


So i looked into the toyota service manual and it said 4-5 labor.... "Im very noob at this" maybe a 12 hours job for me....
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OP,

So blue smoke is generally considered to be burning oil, guess you know...but there could be other causes besides something internal to the engine.

I'm sure the Toyota has a PCV (our CCV) and that could lead to blue smoke also afaik.

There is an awful lot you'd need to know to get into her engine if you needed to, and if you're going for it, the best advice I can offer is to just remember that you learn to put things together by paying attention when you take them apart!

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Dmax, Toyota does not have a PCV (Our CCV) ....

Yes i will remember to put every single nut on cardboard and name them like i saw a guy thread on here... =]
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okay, i did Google it & it has to do with EMISSIONS dude... not oil burning...


Toyota does not have (Oil separator) wdf?
I would do it any way. and yes those cars with age drink oil. plain bearings in the crankcase IMO. and personally if a car has problems like that, it generally doesn't get the regular maintenance needed.
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I'm pretty sure every car has a pcv in some shape or fashion. I'm running to my shop this morning, so I'll ask someone there about it.

And, Mango, I did say ccv, so it wasn't like I didn't contribute nothing...maybe close to that, but not nothing per se!
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I'm pretty sure every car has a pcv in some shape or fashion. I'm running to my shop this morning, so I'll ask someone there about it.

And, Mango, I did say ccv, so it wasn't like I didn't contribute nothing...maybe close to that, but not nothing per se!
Ya Dmax ... I told my mother that it could be oil separator, but called toyota parts guy and he did not know whats ccv or oil separator ....

If that's a ccv is not the problem then I should start doing my homework on how change this Stem seals ..

Tools-

Spring remover,

Magnetic

Air pressure to keep it up

Remove one spark plug at a time..

I need to read more lol


I would appreciate the info you can get from your shop (:
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