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Old 09-20-2012, 05:22 PM   #5521
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So then tell me, out of all the variants produced on the 911 chassis, how many people are using them for their intended purpose besides going to Starbucks?
My car was built as a street legal race car. It was club raced, I've put it on the track a handful of times and now is a used on the street
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one step forward, two steps back...

The panamera would be the best choice for transporting multiple people

The Cayenne would be the best choice for transporting multiple people with possible trips off the beaten path or for those that feel more comfortable higher up.

As Miles said, the best car is different for everyone. The best car for my needs isn't the best car for yours.
That's two steps back for you guys. I'm talking about drivetrain differentiation, you're talking about usability. Those two models already offer a different drivetrain and more usability than the 911, and are one of the best in their respective categories (sedan, SUV).
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Best engine for daily driving? small turbo I4. The best engine for sounding awesome? High revving NA V10 or V12. The best engine for the track? A turbo V6.

The "best" is subjective.
And so clearly wrong
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:25 PM   #5524
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My car was built as a street legal race car. It was club raced, I've put it on the track a handful of times and now is a used on the street

So that counts you as one versus how many, and I don't think you have a 993, 996, or 997.
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So then tell me, out of all the variants produced on the 911 chassis, how many people are using them for their intended purpose besides going to Starbucks?
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That's two steps back for you guys. I'm talking about drivetrain differentiation, you're talking about usability. Those two models already offer a different drivetrain and more usability than the 911, and are one of the best in their respective categories (sedan, SUV).
agreed, what are we over again?
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agreed, what are we over again?
Why the 911 has so many variants to fit these markets that the Cayenne and Panamera were designed for from the ground-up.
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Why the 911 has so many variants to fit these markets that the Cayenne and Panamera were designed for from the ground-up.
they cayenne and panamera were designed for different markets than the 911
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they cayenne and panamera were designed for different markets than the 911
You said the same thing regarding the 911. Do you honestly believe there are ALL those markets?
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You said the same thing regarding the 911. Do you honestly believe there are ALL those markets?
people buy them.... Enough to come out with a variations of each, so yes, I do.
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So that would render the Cayenne and Panamera, and eventually, the Macan completely redundant, despite the fact that the 911 can do all these things.
Where is the overlap between and SUV and a coupe?
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As an enthusiast, I'd be happy if the Cayenne and Panamera did not exist.

As a practical person, I understand why those models exist.
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This is why I like Jaguar. There are only 3 models.
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people buy them.... Enough to come out with a variations of each, so yes, I do.
Yes, but that is akin to buying something you didn't think you needed.
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So then tell me, out of all the variants produced on the 911 chassis, how many people are using them for their intended purpose besides going to Starbucks?
That's a different topic. Porsche's intended use of the cars is not equivalent to what a buyer might consider the best for their use.
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Where is the overlap between and SUV and a coupe?
You said that the 911 exists in all these incarnations to fit different markets. Those two models fit some of the markets the 911 fills half-assedly (because remember, you said that the 911 can fill all these needs because there is a "best car" for everyone) much better, and offering much of the sportiness a 911 would have.
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That's a different topic. Porsche's intended use of the cars is not equivalent to what a buyer might consider the best for their use.
So this discussion comes full circle. Do these variants really need to exist in the first place if, according to you, 60% of 911 buyers are happy with the base model and there is clearly enough demand for a non-911 Porsche anyway?
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And so clearly wrong
V8's are ok for track use too.
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Why the 911 has so many variants to fit these markets that the Cayenne and Panamera were designed for from the ground-up.
Despite what you think, every car Porsche sells has a market. That's why they continue to sell them year after year.

Cars that don't have a market, don't get sold, and die off. Hummer, Pontiac, the Mercedes-Benz R-Class, etc...
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