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Old 08-22-2012, 12:39 AM   #1861
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First properly-kitted example of that generation I've seen.
Which one? New generation?
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Yes. The ones I see on the road have chrome wheels and driven by rich housewives.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:42 AM   #1866
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Probably due to the market, too. Someone who would be deeply involved in motorsport would either get a cheaper, older car that's easier to hack/dismantle/mod or go balls-out on a specialty model.
The only option for people who want a new car is to buy a bare bones model. Even so, most base cars are pretty well equipped lol.

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My QX4 needs to be detailed. It is always parked outside since the garage is full. It's hard to keep it clean.
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In February, we have about two weeks of mud. I feel bad for our vegetation.
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Wes, what the hell are you driving these days?
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And then jack up the price like Porsche?
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The only option for people who want a new car is to buy a bare bones model. Even so, most base cars are pretty well equipped lol.

Companies should offer special editions that are completely stripped of any unnecessary items.
How many % of the market would be interested in an unequipped model? Very low percentage.
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I'm not paying $60K for a stripped-out M3. Or, in BMW's case, $95K for a stripped-out M3.
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For the most part, I drive the QX4. I grew up with it so there is an emotional attachment lol. The day that I sell it is going to be a sad, sad day.

also, an E92 335i.
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A lot of 'Merican car companies sell a "body in white" which is literally the body of the car....no wires, no suspension, no anything, just a body
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And then jack up the price like Porsche?
lol Porsche charges extra for wanting a badge delete.

During the production process, all they have to do is not put the badge on the car and they can put it on the next car in the assembly line. Why the hell would they charge extra for that?
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How many % of the market would be interested in an unequipped model? Very low percentage.
True, but that's why they can be offered as a custom order. Similar to BMW Individual Package... Who would pay thousands of dollars for a paint job that is only slightly different (in some cases) than what is available as standard? Not many, but they're still out there.

If BMW, for example, offered a stripped "Track Spec" M3, I think a good amount of people would go for it (assuming that it was the same price as a base M3).
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also, an E92 335i.
Nice! Finally decided on that huh. Have you done anything to it?
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Sorry, I didn't mean professional racing. I meant that it was a good car for people who need a sedan and also like to go to the track.
Meh, so so at that too from all I've heard, seen, and read. I've heard a lot of rumors that the E46 M3 is faster on many tracks. The fact that even with and engine that has 90hp more and weighs less and it's so close is a pretty obvious sign how lame the m3 became.

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Long day.

The silver Pathfinder had been in a couple of minor accidents and my mechanic gave it a thumbs down. As clean as it was, it was not worth the trouble.

Then my sister convinced me to check out this black/black 2003 Pathfinder and everything turned out to be solid. Carfax was clean, the car itself was in good condition, my mechanic was definitely more impressed with this one and found no issues aside from a very tiny oil pan leak which shouldn't cost much to fix. I actually had the car for a few hours to test it on the highway and streets. It definitely exceeded my expectations and so we went back and negotiated (They were also Persian) and closed the deal at $7000 + Tax from $7995 listing price.

I'm very happy with the purchase.



Thanks, everything worked out after all.

The silver one was slightly cleaner than the one I got, but not by much. I'd rather not buy a car that had been involved in a minor rear end collision. The Black one has no indication of any type of accident aside from some bumper dings & scratches that had been fixed and repainted. Plus its two years newer and has been well maintained mechanically. Again, super happy with the purchase.
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True, but that's why they can be offered as a custom order. Similar to BMW Individual Package... Who would pay thousands of dollars for a paint job that is only slightly different (in some cases) than what is available as standard? Not many, but they're still out there.

If BMW, for example, offered a stripped "Track Spec" M3, I think a good amount of people would go for it (assuming that it was the same price as a base M3).
I can see that, but shouldn't it cost less? Unless there are other advancements in comparison with the standard equipped versions (aside from the lack of unnecessary technologies).
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