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Old 05-12-2014, 01:45 PM   #1
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Changing the tranny fluid and got stuck, help!

I am changing the Tranny fluid and got stuck. I have drained the fluid, drop, cleaned, reinstalled the pan with the new gasket. Now I am stuck on refilling the fluid. Any suggestions are welcome!!!

1). The fill plug size is smaller than the pump hose size so I have to make the hose smaller to get in to the fill hole.
2). I can only insert about ˝ to 1 inch of the hose into the fill hole then stuck. It won’t let it in any longer.
3). When I pump the fluid in, the fluid won’t get in and return back to the floor.
4). The location of the fill plug is towards the rear of the car (Allen wrench)

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Old 05-12-2014, 01:50 PM   #2
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Are you certain you're in the fill plug and not the drain plug? Other than that when I did mine I wasn't able to get it in very far and when you feel it bottom out you have to pull back a bit to let the fluid flow into the pan instead of back out at you. Insert sexual puns here...
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:06 PM   #3
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I filled my transmission with this:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...ier=94647_0_0_

I put one end of the orange tube in the bottle and the other I stuck pretty far into the transmission. So it'll take several quarts while the car is off, then put the plug in, start the car, warm it up, shift gears, etc, then go under and top it off.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:17 PM   #4
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I filled my transmission with this:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...ier=94647_0_0_

I put one end of the orange tube in the bottle and the other I stuck pretty far into the transmission. So it'll take several quarts while the car is off, then put the plug in, start the car, warm it up, shift gears, etc, then go under and top it off.
I am using the same pump but the orange tube is too big to get into the fill hole. Is the fill plug of your E46 located toward the rear of the car or the side of the car?
Mine is toward the rear of the car.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:50 PM   #5
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Bend the hose a little, so it's going in toward the pan.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:55 PM   #6
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I have a GM transmission, so it's probably different.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:01 PM   #7
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I mean the hose can get in about 1/2 to 1 inch and then blocked completely. I guess I may have to drop the pan again to see what happen.

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IDK what to tell you. On the GM I could fit like 6 inches in . The ZF must be different.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:24 PM   #9
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Only thing i can think is that you may be pumping too fast. When i did mine (GM tranny) i only put the hose in about a an inch because it had the black barbed end on it so it would only go in so far. I noticed when i pumped fast about half the fluid would squirt back out past the hose, like there was a "wall" just inside the fill hole in the tranny causing it to splash back at me. So i simply slowed down my pump and nothing came back out untill it got full.

Try that maybe?
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Old 05-12-2014, 05:28 PM   #10
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Only thing i can think is that you may be pumping too fast. When i did mine (GM tranny) i only put the hose in about a an inch because it had the black barbed end on it so it would only go in so far. I noticed when i pumped fast about half the fluid would squirt back out past the hose, like there was a "wall" just inside the fill hole in the tranny causing it to splash back at me. So i simply slowed down my pump and nothing came back out untill it got full.

Try that maybe?
Good point, I will try that. Thanks
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:16 AM   #11
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I am changing the Tranny fluid and got stuck. I have drained the fluid, drop, cleaned, reinstalled the pan with the new gasket. Now I am stuck on refilling the fluid. Any suggestions are welcome!!!

1). The fill plug size is smaller than the pump hose size so I have to make the hose smaller to get in to the fill hole.
2). I can only insert about ˝ to 1 inch of the hose into the fill hole then stuck. It won’t let it in any longer.
3). When I pump the fluid in, the fluid won’t get in and return back to the floor.
4). The location of the fill plug is towards the rear of the car (Allen wrench)

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I think you are trying to fill the wrong hole. Have another good look around for the fill plug. From memory it may be on the side of the ZF transmission, near the back... Not at the back.


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Old 05-13-2014, 08:57 AM   #13
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I am using the same pump but the orange tube is too big to get into the fill hole. Is the fill plug of your E46 located toward the rear of the car or the side of the car?
Mine is toward the rear of the car.
I've seen the "fill hole" you're looking at. That's at the back and not it. The one you want it towards the driver side, #4 below.

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Old 05-13-2014, 11:36 AM   #14
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You guys are right! It was the WRONG hole. The plug toward the rear of the car is the wrong plug and is not a fill plug. I don't know what and why that is for. I have found the fill plug on the side of the pan toward the driver side(#4 as CVX said) which is big enough for the tube.
So I have refilled the fluid w/o any problem. The color of the overflow is little darker than I thought so I will do it again in 30-40k miles. Thanks for the help guys.

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Old 05-13-2014, 11:42 AM   #15
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You guys are right, it was the WRONG hole. The plug toward the rear of the car is the wrong plug and is not a fill plug. I don't know what and why that is for. I have found the fill plug on the side of the pan toward the driver side(#4 as CVX said) which is big enough for the tube.
So I have refilled the fluid w/o any problem. The color of the overflow is little darker than I thought so I will do it again in 30-40k miles. Thanks for the help guys.

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Why not do a simple drain and fill in about 1K miles vice 30K? Not sure about ZF transmissions, but it's only 4 quarts on the GM trannies to just do a drain and fill without dropping the pan or filter. That's what i did, it's as easy as an oil change when you are just doing the fluid. Since you only get about half the fluid out each time, no sense leaving the other half of the old fluid in there for another 30K miles.

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You guys are right! It was the WRONG hole. The plug toward the rear of the car is the wrong plug and is not a fill plug. I don't know what and why that is for. I have found the fill plug on the side of the pan toward the driver side(#4 as CVX said) which is big enough for the tube.
So I have refilled the fluid w/o any problem. The color of the overflow is little darker than I thought so I will do it again in 30-40k miles. Thanks for the help guys.

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I suspect that is for filling a dry transmission, like filling it in the factory. That's why it's also higher, compensating for a dry TC and the ability to fill it without the car running.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:52 PM   #17
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Why not do a simple drain and fill in about 1K miles vice 30K? Not sure about ZF transmissions, but it's only 4 quarts on the GM trannies to just do a drain and fill without dropping the pan or filter. That's what i did, it's as easy as an oil change when you are just doing the fluid. Since you only get about half the fluid out each time, no sense leaving the other half of the old fluid in there for another 30K miles.
Yeah, it is less pain to just drain and fill w/o dropping the pan or filter. Thanks!
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