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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 08-16-2012, 12:30 PM   #21
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Every single part for every single vehicle is made specifically for that vehicle. Because you can bolt something on doesn't mean you should.

I can bake a loaf of cornbread and drill holes in it and mount it anywhere on an E46. Does that mean I should?

Now I'm hungry
OK while I agree that getting low end coilovers for an M3 would be less wise I don't think mods are bad or less quality than original parts. I've had KWs on several cars and they not only improve the ride quality but the handling and grip too and give alot more setup options. As long as the quality and history of the brand and product are good then it should be fine.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:39 PM   #22
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I've never understood the whole static hellaflush stanced out crowd (mostly vdub kids, not many m3's in that bunch) spend $3000 on brand name coils just to slammmm and camber their car to the point of ruination... They should be the ones buying $500 coilovers! haha

That being said I understand where the OP is coming from. I originally cheaped out some still decent FK coils with koni struts for like $1,200 when i first bought my M. They were quality, lowered the car a bit, handled a little bit better which at first was perfectly fine. Eventually I wanted more out of the car with a serious interest in chassis setup and handling so I sold those and bought a custom Ground Control setup for only like $2,000. The setups were night and day difference for only $800 more.

So here's my point... if these cheaper coils are doing it for you then enjoy them! A year from now if you want more out of the car and have the cash just buy something better (worth the cash, trust me!) Hell you could probably sell those for almost as much as you paid for them so don't worry about losing out much either.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:08 PM   #23
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I've never understood the whole static hellaflush stanced out crowd (mostly vdub kids, not many m3's in that bunch) spend $3000 on brand name coils just to slammmm and camber their car to the point of ruination... They should be the ones buying $500 coilovers! haha
The Vdub crowd in Euro world is like a Honda crowd in Import world
They spend a lot to be "creative"
But it looks sh11ty and doesnt function well in the end

of course, it's my .02
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:55 AM   #24
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Some more elitist crap here, but I find it disconcerting that the aftermarket parts industry has basically made it so people think anything that says "coilover" on it is automatically something that will make their car better. I understand the OP still has his stock suspension. But what I don't understand is removing a well designed, high quality suspension setup with tons of great engineering behind it, and replacing it with unknown dampers, secret spring rates, no adjustable dampening, ect.

Coilovers are designed for people that require the extra adjustability of being able to pick spring rates they want, set dampening properly to accompany those spring rates, set ride height at proper ranges to optimize roll center, suspension travel, and rake, balance the weight of the car, then use camber plates in conjunction with stock adjustments to align the car properly in supplement to the suspension setup.

It's nice to experiment. But did you find out what the spring rates are on these and how they compare to stock? Do you know how much travel the dampers have and whether or not your ride heights are going to bottom them out in compression or droop? Did you measure the stock ride heights before removing stock suspension so you could reproduce any right to left bias built in to compensate for driver weight, then calculate compression at your new spring rates with you in the car so sway bar preload isn't an issue? Did you disconnect the sways when setting ride heights so the ride heights could be set without them interfering and you could check for preload at the new heights? Did you measure damper travel to be sure you're not riding on your bump stops? Did you record ride heights so you can check and make sure the adjustment collars aren't slipping and messing up your alignment? What specs did you align the car to? Did you reset the preload on the RTABs and other bushings so there not twisted at the new ride height?

Those are the things you need to take into consideration to properly set up a suspension setup with adjustable ride height. If you ignore that stuff, you're really just playing with the car, downgrading from what BMW put on it, and possibly causing issues as well.

I'm not trying to attack you personally. But I see too many people that are the product of ill-informed information that gets regurgitated over and over again. Pulling well designed suspension off a $50K BMW to throw a $500 spring and damper kit with threaded collars on it? Meh.

You have a great car. An amazing car. In the future, I'd urge you to learn about the engineering before you change it. Learning doesn't cost anything.

So. Much. Win.

I love how people cant drive their car to its limit on stock suspension, but think throwing $XXX amount of new suspension will suddenly turn them into Senna....
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:56 PM   #25
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i just wanna lower it in the summer time. its a slow 323. should do the job.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:36 PM   #26
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So, just a little update.

Put over 15k on the kit so far and every mile has been just as solid as the first.
It's a little humorous when people ask what I'm lowered on and when I say "street edge coil overs" they're like "what?" not a very big name yet, but at the price point, they should definately be getting up there.
I changed brakes about a hundred miles ago (car at 51k) and inspected the struts, springs, rubber pieces... all intact and squeak free.
as a daily driver, this kit is amazing. strong enough to withstand the random unavoidable potholes, and strong enough for intense canyon weekends.
On the lines of hard driving:
body roll is minimal - I mean you have to push a rated 30 turn at 70 to really 'toss'. from what I remember my zcp it was softer, and you cushioned into turns a little more. not quite sure what a track setup would feel like (TCK or high-end KW) but considering the price, this kit is beautiful.

to anyone out there looking into coil overs for DD/weekender fun, I definately recommend this.

I'll try getting some pics of the components as they sit now, little later.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:00 PM   #27
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:11 AM   #28
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I'm switching wheels today, so I'll be back with pictures and info on that ^^^
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:35 AM   #29
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:40 AM   #30
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #31
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Some more elitist crap here, but I find it disconcerting that the aftermarket parts industry has basically made it so people think anything that says "coilover" on it is automatically something that will make their car better. I understand the OP still has his stock suspension. But what I don't understand is removing a well designed, high quality suspension setup with tons of great engineering behind it, and replacing it with unknown dampers, secret spring rates, no adjustable dampening, ect.

Coilovers are designed for people that require the extra adjustability of being able to pick spring rates they want, set dampening properly to accompany those spring rates, set ride height at proper ranges to optimize roll center, suspension travel, and rake, balance the weight of the car, then use camber plates in conjunction with stock adjustments to align the car properly in supplement to the suspension setup.

It's nice to experiment. But did you find out what the spring rates are on these and how they compare to stock? Do you know how much travel the dampers have and whether or not your ride heights are going to bottom them out in compression or droop? Did you measure the stock ride heights before removing stock suspension so you could reproduce any right to left bias built in to compensate for driver weight, then calculate compression at your new spring rates with you in the car so sway bar preload isn't an issue? Did you disconnect the sways when setting ride heights so the ride heights could be set without them interfering and you could check for preload at the new heights? Did you measure damper travel to be sure you're not riding on your bump stops? Did you record ride heights so you can check and make sure the adjustment collars aren't slipping and messing up your alignment? What specs did you align the car to? Did you reset the preload on the RTABs and other bushings so there not twisted at the new ride height?

Those are the things you need to take into consideration to properly set up a suspension setup with adjustable ride height. If you ignore that stuff, you're really just playing with the car, downgrading from what BMW put on it, and possibly causing issues as well.

I'm not trying to attack you personally. But I see too many people that are the product of ill-informed information that gets regurgitated over and over again. Pulling well designed suspension off a $50K BMW to throw a $500 spring and damper kit with threaded collars on it? Meh.

You have a great car. An amazing car. In the future, I'd urge you to learn about the engineering before you change it. Learning doesn't cost anything.

This. Depending how fair the op is the five fingers are going to leave a lasting imprint on his face.

You took a pos suspension and put it on your car. Can't afford better coilovers? Are you such an epic fail just sell the dam things new and get money towards a better proven setup. Yes you are balling with your csl diffuser and other stuff but seriously, the ride is something that impacts everything you do with a car . Stop recommending that pos setup. Take it off your car maybe a brz owner will buy it
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:09 PM   #32
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to each their own....personally i applaud this experiment!
Unlike most of the "bawlers" around here i have no interest in dropping at least a grand on a "proven" coil setup just so that i can lower my DD car a little bit.
Im not into tracking my ///M either, so if this setup works i'll just throw it on and spend the money i saved on something else...oh i don't know, maybe a cooling system overhaul?

Thanks OP! Please post pics of your car lowered on this setup!

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:27 PM   #33
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Why are you so concerned?

The guy had a positive experience with this product, for what he wanted to get out of them (not everyone wants to track their car), and was nice enough to follow up after 15k miles.

My advice to you would be to forget everything you know about the english language (which should be easy for you), spend a little less time worrying about spring rates, perhaps a little more on english lessons, and let others do what they want with their cars. That way you will not look like a fool when you are trying to voice your opinion.



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This. Depending how fair the op is the five fingers are going to leave a lasting imprint on his face.

You took a pos suspension and put it on your car. Can't afford better coilovers? Are you such an epic fail just sell the dam things new and get money towards a better proven setup. Yes you are balling with your csl diffuser and other stuff but seriously, the ride is something that impacts everything you do with a car . Stop recommending that pos setup. Take it off your car maybe a brz owner will buy it
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:48 AM   #34
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:37 PM   #35
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Rofl at this thread. The epic fail is the guy who thinks you shouldn't be willing to test new products on your car. It's a car, get over yourself.
The M3 isn't top of the line anything, it's just better than average but it's cute that some of you live or die by the price of what you put on your car.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:16 PM   #36
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Rofl at this thread. The epic fail is the guy who thinks you shouldn't be willing to test new products on your car. It's a car, get over yourself.
The M3 isn't top of the line anything, it's just better than average but it's cute that some of you live or die by the price of what you put on your car.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:41 AM   #37
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Rofl at this thread. The epic fail is the guy who thinks you shouldn't be willing to test new products on your car. It's a car, get over yourself.
The M3 isn't top of the line anything, it's just better than average but it's cute that some of you live or die by the price of what you put on your car.
Well put. OP, any updates on coilovers? I rarely track my M3 but I hate stock ride height and don't feel like dishing out lots of $$$ when I won't be tracking it a lot. I do feel where others are coming from about higher quality brands like KW and Ohlins (which I'll most likely end up getting).
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:19 PM   #38
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Another update? I get too much haters up in here, lol.

probably at 20k now on the kit. Still love them just as much. No squeals, not blown anything, no clunks. Only NEW thing so far is I got my top hats swapped. did it wrong at first and sported -4.4 camber for a weekend. tires hated it, but my twisty drive down to bimmerfest could not have been better. any how, fixed the top hats, now get -2.5 with the hats swapped. still clear the struts just fine, no issues whatsoever. Im saving up for a TCKline kit because I DO plan on tracking this beast soon, but dont want any surprises if I happen to push this kit too far.
When I got it, Kris said it was a DD kit, not so much was said ab track usage.

here's how I sported the kit for a while on varstoens - 13f and 13.5 rear.




then here's the car on apex's and a little higher 13.5f 13.75rear.

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Old 05-23-2013, 06:18 AM   #39
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:41 AM   #40
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That looks really good, glad they worked out. Half the posts in here are reasons I don't bother with forums other than DIY and the occasional post a pic or build thread.. elitist fuks who think that a 13 year old car, (op's case 7?) is gods gift to man and every part on it should be OEM or carry the price tag of a used car..

While I agree 100% that the m3 is an amazing car, I just got mine and I love it. But **** all you preaching to the 2k$ suspension setups or OMFG YOU DIDNT BUY AN OEM BUMPER GUIDE - head asploded - and then bashing on a guy for throwing a set of $500 coils on his "50k chariot" just prove the point that you have no community or "enthusiast" spirit, just a bunch of douches with money, or credit cards to waste and max to hate on this guy. It's a BMW in the end, not a fking Zonda..

OP, great looking car, love that fender stripe, can you go any lower? If I wasn't set on having custom rates done and getting a set of BC racing coils I would probably snag these tonight. Keep it up and let the elitists fund the overpriced inflated import market. If the parts quality and the company has the mindset of bringing an affordable piece to the market, support them day and night!
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