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Old 08-23-2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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Starting to think I got scammed, who lives near Rock Island, IL???

I bought some OEM M3 19's from a guy on here for a good deal, 400$. (maybe too good to be true!) I've seen them go for 500-600 so 400$ was a good deal.

I sent a money order in his name to his adress.
He has received the payment a long time ago, about 2-3 weeks. The money order was made by Canada Post and they usually take only 2-3 days to clear at any bank if there is a delay at all.

I get a pm from him every second week with a small worthless update like the bank took forever to clear the money order and he's gonna ship them soon but I have yet to receive a tracking number.

He's a pretty new member but from the few threads he did he seemed ok and I wasn't buying 3000$ wheels either. I was pretty confident.

Now I'm getting frustrated and I don't have his phone number to call him up.
I've made so many purchases on here with cool members, this would suck if he did in fact screw me.

I have no way of getting the money back. I have his name and adress, it has to be his name or he could not have deposited the money order.

What should I do?
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:36 PM   #2
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I bought some OEM M3 19's from a guy on here for a good deal, 400$. (maybe too good to be true!) I've seen them go for 500-600 so 400$ was a good deal.

I sent a money order in his name to his adress.
He has received the payment a long time ago, about 2-3 weeks. The money order was made by Canada Post and they usually take only 2-3 days to clear at any bank if there is a delay at all.

I get a pm from him every second week with a small worthless update like the bank took forever to clear the money order and he's gonna ship them soon but I have yet to receive a tracking number.

He's a pretty new member but from the few threads he did he seemed ok and I wasn't buying 3000$ wheels either. I was pretty confident.

Now I'm getting frustrated and I don't have his phone number to call him up.
I've made so many purchases on here with cool members, this would suck if he did in fact screw me.

I have no way of getting the money back. I have his name and adress, it has to be his name or he could not have deposited the money order.

What should I do?
This is why you use a third party like Pay Pal.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:39 PM   #3
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True but I do use paypal sometimes just not this time . I always figured that if the guy is willing to give me his name and adress to receive the money order he wouldn't scam me.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:50 PM   #4
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True but I do use paypal sometimes just not this time . I always figured that if the guy is willing to give me his name and adress to receive the money order he wouldn't scam me.
Yeah I won't give anyone money with out a third party managing the transaction or I just do the exchange in person.

It's the risk you take.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:08 PM   #5
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His screen name..? So that others may be aware..
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:10 PM   #6
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well whats the guys name, info or username?
we have some pretty good detectives on here
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:17 PM   #7
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go pay him a visit.
check local laws and maybe you can call the cops while there
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:11 PM   #8
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well whats the guys name, info or username?
we have some pretty good detectives on here
I don't want to post his info just yet, I'll give him a last chance.

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go pay him a visit.
check local laws and maybe you can call the cops while there
I'm too far to go see him but I have been contacted by a member who lives close to him, maybe he'll be able to help!

Not a bad idea to check local laws!

For now I don't want a war with the guy, just the wheels or my money back.

If he screws me, we'll see
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:31 PM   #9
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He probably ran with the check, there is no real way to catch him. He will probably deny whatever you say, not like you guys signed an agreement in person or anything.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:59 PM   #10
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Just post the username.

That's why I tell everyone to use Paypal. Sorry to hear.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:10 PM   #11
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Just post the username.

That's why I tell everyone to use Paypal. Sorry to hear.


Hope he comes through, but even if he does it's obvious that he's someone that I wouldn't want to do business with.

I'd like to know who it is so I can avoid him.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:35 PM   #12
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You're drastically underestimating the capacity and machinations of a criminal.

Very naive to send money as you have with no more security than existed.

Grow up in NY and you'd know all this.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:06 PM   #13
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Call me crazy but I used to be more afraid of paypal. You just wire money to an e-mail adress, I used to think that was even easier for thieves but I guess they have a good system for when you get hustled.

As for his user name, don't buy anything from a user with the number 7 at the end of his name.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:47 AM   #14
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I would post his name, address, facebook, and make sure this scammer lives in absolute fear.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:21 AM   #15
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Was it $400 shipped?

Because shipping 4 wheels into Canada from USA is probably another $100 or so in shipping charges.

Call the 1-800 # on the back of the CanadaPost money order and find out if it was cashed, if it wasn't you can cancel the transaction and get a refund.
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Call the 1-800 # on the back of the CanadaPost money order and find out if it was cashed, if it wasn't you can cancel the transaction and get a refund.
This. Do it ASAP.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:49 AM   #17
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I would post his name, address, facebook, and make sure this scammer lives in absolute fear.
This will happen if I am not satisfied with the outcome of this whole thing.

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Was it $400 shipped?

Because shipping 4 wheels into Canada from USA is probably another $100 or so in shipping charges.

Call the 1-800 # on the back of the CanadaPost money order and find out if it was cashed, if it wasn't you can cancel the transaction and get a refund.
I provided a US shipping adress in upstate NY. The money order was cashed, I checked
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:39 PM   #18
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have you try to contact him and did he respond, let him know if you dont hear from him in 2 days you will be reporting him to law enforcement. there's a few sites for online fraud.

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Old 08-24-2012, 01:11 PM   #19
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Call me crazy but I used to be more afraid of paypal. You just wire money to an e-mail adress, I used to think that was even easier for thieves but I guess they have a good system for when you get hustled.

As for his user name, don't buy anything from a user with the number 7 at the end of his name.
If you file a dispute with Paypal, they take the money and hold it until everything is resolved (had someone paypal me money before and I didn't send the item in the agreed upon time frame). When you send someone money, you add a complete description of the item and terms of sale. If he doesn't follow through with something or the item isn't as described, then it is disputable.

Always use paypal for sight unseen buys. If it is a good amount of money, have the seller make an ebay auction and buy it through ebay and paypal for more protection.
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If you file a dispute with Paypal, they take the money and hold it until everything is resolved (had someone paypal me money before and I didn't send the item in the agreed upon time frame). When you send someone money, you add a complete description of the item and terms of sale. If he doesn't follow through with something or the item isn't as described, then it is disputable.

Always use paypal for sight unseen buys. If it is a good amount of money, have the seller make an ebay auction and buy it through ebay and paypal for more protection.
+1 Paypal has saved my money a number of times. They have the ability to pull you money straight out of that persons bank account if there is a dispute.
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