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Old 08-25-2012, 08:51 AM   #1
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Ball joint, or Tie rod?

2001 325i auto 85k

My passenger wheel shudders while driving. I jacked the car up last night to do brakes, along with the "wiggle test" for the tires. I noticed I need to replace both CAB, but on the passenger side the tire (while on jack stands) wiggles when putting force on 3 and 9 o clock. I checked the tie rod, it seemed tight as I wiggled away, but the bolt for the Ball Joint under the brake had ALOT of play (would not tighten any more either). I was under the impression that ball ball joints made the wheel wiggle at 12 and 6 o clock and not 3 and 9. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:04 AM   #2
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You should replace both left and right CAB's first and then determine if you must replace anything else.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:08 AM   #3
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The ball joint bolt should NOT wiggle. Does it not tighten even while stabilizing the stud with a hex key? I would determine whether or not you want to replace the control arm itself before you tackle the CAB's. If you put on new CAB's and decide after that the control arm needs to be replaced, you will likely need a second set of new bushings - which seems to me to be a waste of money.

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Old 08-25-2012, 09:19 AM   #4
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I figured I would do the whole CA with bushing at the same time if that seemed to be majority vote. I am just confused with the movement that is happening, motor/electronic, I don't typically have to many issues, but I'm new to the world of suspension. Thank you for speedy responses so far.

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Old 08-25-2012, 12:31 PM   #5
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How many miles?

Most likely culprit.... CAB. Do both and use poly here not rubber. Put light lube on ends of CAB's to make install easier plus eliminate chance of creaks or squeaks. While your at it you should replace the swaybar bushings with poly and light greasing on inside that contacts the bar. Front and rear. Very inexpensive to do for a problem that will come. If only bushings don't do it then move to the entire arm. Replacing CA after the bushings will have very little effect on the cab bushings over a short period of diagnostic driving.

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Old 08-25-2012, 01:55 PM   #6
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:33 PM   #7
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That video pretty much looks like what mine is doing (mine sounds worse ), granted I was looking from the top, down. So... Ball joint, which means Control arm, and bushings. Thanks guys!
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:58 PM   #8
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i recommend meyle hd control arm + meyle HD bushes + check your alignment after you replaced those bits
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:43 PM   #9
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I see that melye hd are highly recommended, and I have new tires to go on, so I was going to do an alignment also. I just wanted to get the suspension issue out of the way before putting new tires on. Thanks again
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:40 AM   #10
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I see that melye hd are highly recommended, and I have new tires to go on, so I was going to do an alignment also. I just wanted to get the suspension issue out of the way before putting new tires on. Thanks again
Check the link below. $339 a set, and free shipping. You may find them a bit cheaper, but not with free shipping. Also, shipping costs for these are high, because they weigh quite a bit. Believe me, I have shopped around a LOT.

http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...758623my-2.htm
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:33 AM   #11
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Check the link below. $339 a set, and free shipping. You may find them a bit cheaper, but not with free shipping. Also, shipping costs for these are high, because they weigh quite a bit. Believe me, I have shopped around a LOT.

http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...758623my-2.htm

I have to pay for speedy shipping, but great find, about 52 dollars cheaper than I found (speed shipping was cheaper also ), Thank you!
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #12
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http://www.bmaparts.com/index.php

Use code specE30. Price is $299 shipped.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:54 PM   #13
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http://www.bmaparts.com/index.php

Use code specE30. Price is $299 shipped.
If I didn't need to have them installed by next weekend I would go with them, 3 day shipping makes it the same price that I just paid. Good looking out though!
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #14
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No problem man. I'm about to order a set for my 323. Let me know how your install goes!
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:06 PM   #15
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No problem man. I'm about to order a set for my 323. Let me know how your install goes!
I will, it does not look very hard, but you know how that goes sometimes.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:41 AM   #16
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No problem man. I'm about to order a set for my 323. Let me know how your install goes!
I can go into details if you need, but for the low down:

Took 5 hours total for both sides, with no trips to the store.

My passenger ball joint was BAD, and thus came off easy.

Everything about the driver side was a PITA.

No alignment needed, and I can't believe this is what a BMW is supposed to feel like.

http://www.oembimmerparts.com/produc...758623my-2.htm (thanks MJLavelle) cost for 2-3 day shipping was $10, and it came literally overnight

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:29 AM   #17
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That's great! I'm going to have to get an alignment for my car because it's been off for awhile and it's eating up my tires. There hasn't been a point until now to get one because I know that I needed the CAB and ball joints. My are waiting for install and it should be happening tomorrow with my new tires.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:47 AM   #18
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That's great! I'm going to have to get an alignment for my car because it's been off for awhile and it's eating up my tires. There hasn't been a point until now to get one because I know that I needed the CAB and ball joints. My are waiting for install and it should be happening tomorrow with my new tires.
My alignment was WAY right, and after this and new tires, I didn't end up needing an alignment. Maybe you can get lucky also.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:39 AM   #19
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jagean - did you take it to alignment shop and was told it didnt need alignment?
i think you should measure your toe - mine was way off changing to meyle hd

you will need to measure on level ground, straight steering wheel and tape measure at same height for accurate reading
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:14 PM   #20
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Just installed mine today and what a difference!!! Car doesn't follow ruts in the road, crosswinds do nothing, and it feels more stable going around corners. I did get it aligned just to be safe. Car drives and feels like new.
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