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Old 08-30-2012, 11:10 AM   #1
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ESS VT500 M3.. clutch choice?

As my other thread stated, ill be buying an M3 soon, and throwing the VT500 supercharger into it.

Currently wondering.. would the stock clutch (6mt) hold good enough for this?
If not.. anyone who has the kit.. what clutch are you using/recommend?

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:05 PM   #2
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You should be fine with the stock clutch...
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #3
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If you dont run the stock id recommend the hpf stage 1
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:13 PM   #4
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stock will hold up for as long as your driving style will allow it....Vt500 kit your going to need an hpf stg 1 atleast.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:01 AM   #5
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I only had 430 hp with a AA stage 1.5 kit. I fried my clutch AND flywheel with less than THIRTY K MILES ON IT!!!
I hear ALL sorts of stories about the stock clutch being fine. If you drive like a granny, maybe.

There are plenty choices for SC'd clutch kits. Almost ALL of us at HPF are biased to the Soutbend/HPF FERAMIC clutches. Start at clutch stage TWO for SMG cars and stage oNE for 6MT cars.

A new clutch felt like i gained 40 HP!!!! My stock one was fried.
later on it was decided to get RID of my dual mass flywheel due to scoring and HEAT damage!!! Replacing those are VERY expensive!!!
Recommend you get performance clutch before you damage anything!!!

Yes, yes, you will hear stories of this or that car making amazing power and KEEPING the OEM clutch!!! That is NOT what happened to my car.!
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:11 AM   #6
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Well with that in mind.. ill just grab a clutch as well.
Should I stay with the stock flywheel, or get a different one?

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Old 08-31-2012, 12:27 PM   #7
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Well with that in mind.. ill just grab a clutch as well.
Should I stay with the stock flywheel, or get a different one?

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If you have a 6MT you will love a lightened flywheel. I would look into getting a total PACKAGE from the same maker...a clutch AND flywheel kit.

Anybody can recommend a GOOD combination for the OP???
I am SMG so I use OEM dual mass flywheel.

It is possible that you can get great results from mixing manufacturers. Other guys need to speak up on this matter.

Realize that drivability will suffer some. you will have to give MORE revs from a dead stop. I dont know about chatter. Maybe. Guys that have a good set up LOVE their light flywheels.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:09 PM   #8
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I was thinking lightened. But I want it to be able to be a DD if I decide.
Was told lightened flywheels make it so much easier to stall.
And if I toss in the VT500, is probably be ripping through first accidently.. Haha

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Old 08-31-2012, 03:25 PM   #9
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JB racing makes amazing rebuildable pieces. I"m currently running a 10lb JB racing flywheel. Fx400 4 puck, ZERO CHATTER NONE EVER AC ON/OFF doesn't matter. I can produce a video for you if you would like. Check out JB racing. Very friendly/informative people. You shouldn't have many drivability issues with a centi setup. Stopping and starting, GL OP!
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:54 AM   #10
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JB racing makes amazing rebuildable pieces. I"m currently running a 10lb JB racing flywheel. Fx400 4 puck, ZERO CHATTER NONE EVER AC ON/OFF doesn't matter. I can produce a video for you if you would like. Check out JB racing. Very friendly/informative people. You shouldn't have many drivability issues with a centi setup. Stopping and starting, GL OP!
Well, here you go Matt. This set up has a first hand glowing review. I dont think the lighter flywheels have any serious street issues. lots of guys run them in the street. I am pretty sure the learning curve is very short for getting off the line with out stalling. I have never heard anything about having to make the motor scream before you slip the clutch. It is just a driving method adjustment.
The speed at which the car winds out is the big pay day here. The fact that this set up has zero chatter makes it sound like a winner.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:46 AM   #11
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Don't forget these are rebuildable. This is the last flywheel you will ever need to buy. It has helicoils so you can drop new coils in. (no need for loctite, none of that backing out bs) You remove the friction surface and it can be swapped out. No need to machine the flywheel. Just saying worth looking into.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:21 AM   #12
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Don't forget these are rebuildable. This is the last flywheel you will ever need to buy. It has helicoils so you can drop new coils in. (no need for loctite, none of that backing out bs) You remove the friction surface and it can be swapped out. No need to machine the flywheel. Just saying worth looking into.
I saw the 20Lbs version is designed as a stock unit, does it also have these features ?

The one you run you cant run a HPF-clutch setup with right ?
EDIT : Nevermind thought you had a M3

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