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Old 09-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #1
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Question Arqray lip, height?

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been searching the forum but havn't found what i've been looking for so i'm creating a new thread for my question and hope that someone on this forum could help me
I'm cruising in a lowered/slammed 323 coupe from year 2000. I've had it for about a year and now i'm thinking about buying a m-tech front and also a arqray lip, which would give my car a even cleaner look. The problem is that i'm worried that the m-tech+arqray would go much lower than my original front
don't have to much hight to play with and to raise the car is not an option just to be able to ride with another front!

so, do anyone know exactly the difference in high between the original e46 coupe front and the m-tech with the additional arqray lip?

here's a pic of how low the front of my car is for the moment...


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Old 09-01-2012, 02:15 PM   #2
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Yikes! That's low. Chances are you'll be kissing the floor with that setup
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:56 PM   #3
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Yikes! That's low. Chances are you'll be kissing the floor with that setup
yeah it's kind of low
i feel like it probably will and it's feels like such a waste to buy the setup and know you're gonna wreck it because it gets to low!
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the arqray lip will be destroyed at that height. And trust me, its a pain in the ass to remold once you fvck the lip up. My suggestion is higher your car (get bigger wheels) or just get an mtechII and not add any lip
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Old 09-01-2012, 03:07 PM   #5
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Yeah, It'll only be a matter of time before something destroys the lip like a bump on the road you didnt see or object on the road you didnt see until it was too late. The question is not IF but WHEN
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Old 09-01-2012, 03:35 PM   #6
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My suggestion is higher your car (get bigger wheels) or just get an mtechII and not add any lip
Will not get bigger wheels on this one but maybe raise it " or so and then poke the wheels a little more! I'm trying to keep it as clean as possible and i believe that adding only the m-tech will give the car a little to aggressive look

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Yeah, It'll only be a matter of time before something destroys the lip like a bump on the road you didnt see or object on the road you didnt see until it was too late. The question is not IF but WHEN
well i know that it won't take much of a bump to scrape but i'm getting quite used to it and know how much of a bump it needs for the car to scrape and also how to get over them without scraping! believe it or not, i even manage to get over speedbumps. But i prefer if they could be avoided


now back to my question...
do anyone know if there is any high difference between an original bumper and a m-tech with arqray lip?
best were if someone who already made the change had the opportunity to measure the difference between their old front and their new one?

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Old 09-01-2012, 03:55 PM   #7
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ITT: "higher" gets verbed
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Charlie has a ZHP w/Arqray, maybe he can chime in
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lets hope so!
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Yeah, It'll only be a matter of time before something destroys the lip like a bump on the road you didnt see or object on the road you didnt see until it was too late. The question is not IF but WHEN
+1

OP, looking at the ride height and rake you currently have on your 323 coupe, the MTec II w/ Arqray lip will not clear any obstruction you may encounter on the road, let alone any hard bumps. I will say that there will be a good chance you will destroy your lip if you mount the Arqray lip to the MTec II bumper with your current ride height.

Here are a few pics of my Arqray lip with current stock ZHP ride height...






With my current ride height I have just enough clearance to clear any speed bumps but when I install my coilovers and lower my ride another inch, I will have to steer clear from them to prevent any potential damage to my lip...


Thanks JP for the heads up Been working on both BP's and my ZHP all afternoon....
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:07 PM   #11
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It's definitely a matter of WHEN, not IF. You can be as careful as a surgeon during surgery, but something will sneak up you....

...like the unavoidable piece of tire on the freeway that took half of my Arkym lip clean off. After nearly two years of careful preservation, my efforts were negated after one 10 minute freeway trip.

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Let me put it in another perspective for you. Not an M-tech/Arqray but this example should be appropriate.

BEFORE:



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Sorry to see that happen to your lip! That's the exact type of lip I would love to have for my ///M ...
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Sorry to see that happen to your lip! That's the exact type of lip I would love to have for my ///M ...
That's alright. Yeah it kind of sucked b@lls it lasted for only a week but 5hit happens i guess. Bought a replacement immediately after. Has been holding up just fine a couple months later
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Not going to work... at all.

I have the same setup as charlie and I scraped the bottom bad twice.
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Here are a few pics of my Arqray lip with current stock ZHP ride height...
The pics didn't help to much. Been looking at a lot of pics on google and i would really need the exact measures. but nice looking car and thx anyway

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exactly!

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Let me put it in another perspective for you. Not an M-tech/Arqray but this example should be appropriate.
love those lips! did you hit something?

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I have the same setup as charlie and I scraped the bottom bad twice.
and how low is your car?
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:02 AM   #17
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Here's a suggest...stop dropping your car you bunch of fvcks...looks like sh!t to 90% of the population
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The pics didn't help to much. Been looking at a lot of pics on google and i would really need the exact measures. but nice looking car and thx anyway

Here are some measurements I took of my Arqray lip on my ZHP this morning. I have about 5" of clearance with my current ZHP suspension setup.







Since my suspension isn't anywhere lowered as you are I can only show you how much a stock ZHP suspension will clear. Looking at your setup... I'm sure if you try this setup you it won't take long for you to damage the Arqray lip if you mount it. If you want the MTecII + Arqray lip then I would recommend raising your ride height abit...
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Here are some measurements I took of my Arqray lip on my ZHP this morning. I have about 5" of clearance with my current ZHP suspension setup.
Thanks that's much more helpful!
do you know if there's any hight difference between a original sedan and a original coupe?
my car is lowered ~85mm in the front and ~50mm in the back
subtract 85mm from your 5" clearance would give me a hight of about 40mm from the lip to the ground. But considering my ride is lower in the front than it is in the back and therefore tilted a bit forward, i will probably get even less clearance
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I can measure later but it will probably be the same.
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