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Old 09-09-2012, 10:51 AM   #1
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Exclamation Nail/Stone in tire (Picture)

SO the TPMS light on my BMW has been coming up (this type doesn't tell you WHICH tire it is), and I did not see any of the tire losing air, and I had pretty much decided that a sensor was going south...even a Firestone shop took a look at the tires and found nothing...

then yesterday TPMS went off again !! AND one of tires DID look flat and needed quite a bit of air to get up to recc'd level...so i checked that tire thoroughly..

then i saw THIS: IDK weather it's a weird shaped nail head or a sharp stone but it's in there DEEP -
did the tire place miss this when they checked it? (or did they ever check the tires...) ...is the TPMS right after all, or did i just pick this nail/stone up?

Take a look and see what you think....

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Old 09-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #2
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pull it out.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #3
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From the picture, that looks like a stone. As to your questions, I don't think they have answers - they are all plausible situations (none of which can be ruled and or singled out based on your photo).

If the tire needed air, then the TPMS did its job (possibly a fluke). If the shop didn't catch why the tire was losing air, that may mean that they weren't competent or it may mean that you didn't have a problem before. Since you need to get the leaky tire fixed, I would take the car to another tire shop and see what they find.

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #4
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Go to autozone and buy a tire repair kits... Plugs.
Then pull it out and plug it.
Fill up with air, check pressure, spray with soapy water.
If the water doesnt bubble your done.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:27 AM   #5
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those brown thingys are long enough to be cut in half so fix 10 punctures
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:32 PM   #6
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If your tire was low and the tpms came on I don't see what the problem is. Spray soapy water and see if that's where it's leaking.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:41 PM   #7
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Go to autozone and buy a tire repair kits... Plugs.
Then pull it out and plug it.
Fill up with air, check pressure, spray with soapy water.
If the water doesnt bubble your done.
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Proper safe repair is a patch from the inside according to Michelin.
Plugs can fail.
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:27 PM   #8
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Proper safe repair is a patch from the inside according to Michelin.
Plugs can fail.
I had the exact opposite luck lol. Plugs lasted forever but patches failed in less then a month

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Old 09-09-2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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I actually asked Michelin if a patched tire would be down-rated in terms of top speed, but they said a properly patched tire would still get the same rating as new. I was kinda surprised.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:19 PM   #10
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Proper safe repair is a patch from the inside according to Michelin.
Plugs can fail.
Been using plugs for decades, and never had a single failure.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #11
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" did the tire place miss this when they checked it? ""

You can not check a tire and miss that my friend.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:14 PM   #12
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Been using plugs for decades, and never had a single failure.
Had fire insurance for twenty years. Never had a fire.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:59 PM   #13
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Had fire insurance for twenty years. Never had a fire.
lets keep focused.
plugs, patches whatever...
if you know your way around hole it doesnt matter what method you use.
When I fix the hole, its good to go!!!
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:49 PM   #14
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Actually the technical explanation at the time was that radials had parallel steel cords that would work to cut the plug after a while on radials.
I believe you've never had a problem, but when I'm getting ready to cruise that brand new stretch of 85 mph turnpike down in Texas at close to 90 mph, I'm going to feel better with the factory recommended repair on my Michelins.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #15
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1. Buy LEGIT repair kit
2. Jack car up
3. Pull it out
4. If stone you're on your way, if nail, use repair kit.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:08 PM   #16
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Actually the technical explanation at the time was that radials had parallel steel cords that would work to cut the plug after a while on radials.
I believe you've never had a problem, but when I'm getting ready to cruise that brand new stretch of 85 mph turnpike down in Texas at close to 90 mph, I'm going to feel better with the factory recommended repair on my Michelins.
If you read my previous post, which i am sure you did, you have noticed I know my way around a hole; before you put a plug into the tire, you need to use that T-handle rasp which "files" the metal around the puncture.
Fist rasp, then plug... insert, twist a couple of times, pull it out fast;
finally, soapy water to test for leak... if successful have a beer.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:14 PM   #17
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btw America's Tire/Discount Tires does free plugs if you have one in your area, you don't have to be a customer either.
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btw America's Tire/Discount Tires does free plugs if you have one in your area, you don't have to be a customer either.
True. Plus, they'll repair it with a patch - see http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoRepairingTires.dos and http://www.rma.org/tire_safety/tire_...y/tire_repair/!

No point in paying even $5 for a plug kit when you can have it done correctly for free.

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Old 09-10-2012, 09:16 AM   #19
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Go to autozone and buy a tire repair kits... Plugs.
Then pull it out and plug it.
Fill up with air, check pressure, spray with soapy water.
If the water doesnt bubble your done.
Hth
Dont do this.. Only in an emergency should you Plug a tire.. IMO

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If your tire was low and the tpms came on I don't see what the problem is. Spray soapy water and see if that's where it's leaking.
Do this to be sure the anomaly is the culprit

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Proper safe repair is a patch from the inside according to Michelin.
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I had the exact opposite luck lol. Plugs lasted forever but patches failed in less then a month

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Bad Luck for patches then.. Prolly werent done right.

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I actually asked Michelin if a patched tire would be down-rated in terms of top speed, but they said a properly patched tire would still get the same rating as new. I was kinda surprised.
Just remember that a hole larger than a certain size is alo considered Un-Patchable. Eventhough the tire gets the same speed rating, Its chances of separating are now greatly increased at the site of puncture.

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True. Plus, they'll repair it with a patch - see http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoRepairingTires.dos and http://www.rma.org/tire_safety/tire_...y/tire_repair/!

No point in paying even $5 for a plug kit when you can have it done correctly for free.

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Go to one of those mentioned stores and be sure to tell them that you have TPMS and you would prefer a PLUG PATCH./ ALSO, and this is entirely up to you, rebalance the wheel. 2 reasons.. A> An unbalanced wheel will stress a patch and cause expedited failure.. B> The tire will be moved on the rim and no longer hold true to the last balance, (NO MATTER WHAT) Trust me I know this..
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That's a nail or something that's punctured the tire and causing a slow air leak. Get it repaired properly, it's not rocket science.
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