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Old 09-15-2012, 01:18 AM   #61
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New headlight lenses? Why? Just get a good rubbing compound and buff out the age. Ive done it on many cars before. And as for that scratch on the fender you could EASILY use rubbing compound on that too. It dosnt look like its through the clear coat. Id buy this tomorrow, but its in LA and I am in Phoenix so its really not worth the drive

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Old 09-15-2012, 02:39 AM   #62
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No matter how much you use rubbing compound, it will never look as good as fresh lenses

I tried a million things for mine, looked decent, but buying a new set was definitely one of the better buys
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:35 AM   #63
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Really, have any of the guys been on car market recently... That is not "super beat" BMW... Only headlight lenses restore and "blackening" bumper/door mouldings would really bring this car to life. I would worry about three things that can't be seen from the pics:

-does it have maintainance records
-has it been in an accident (and which kind if it was)
-was it repainted

If those three check out, all the rest is really cosmetics...
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:02 AM   #64
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totally love the advert: " Specializing In Fine Previously Owned Vehicles. We strive to earn your business and deliver an exceptional buying experience. Price does not include Tax, Smog, Documentation and Registration fees. WE BUY & SELL THE CLEANEST MINT CONDITION VEHICLES BELOW WHOLESALE MARKET VALUE!! " normally I tell folks to avoid these hoodlots, like el plauge-o, but if you're an ambitious fanatic, you could be in danger of getting a ZHP for an amazing price. it's been my experience that most junk dealers (Bimmers aren't junk) have absolutely no idea at all that ZHP exists, what it means, or that they are awesome and rare. with the right budget, space, and time, I would.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:11 PM   #65
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:33 PM   #66
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For the sake of comparison I just bought an identical model zhp but in much cleaner condition in and out, full maintenance records, Konis, led tail lights, and iPod integration for 9000.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:25 PM   #67
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Don't see whats wrong with it.... If its mechanically good all it needs is some cosmetic work... If not it would make a great track car...
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:39 PM   #68
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^^Hahaha

Just replacing those headlight lenses alone would take 10 years off that car! If the engine was reasonably well taken care of I wouldn't mind fixing all that other stuff up one by one. It could be a cool project for someone...or like you say be some high school dipwad's first car.

I take offense to the dipwad comment but I would also say that it is most of the time a true statement...




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I legitimately thought they covered it in the greasiest Armor All they could find for a minute there...

The nice thing about the ZHP is that some dealers have no idea it's a ZHP, so they just sell it as a "sports package" car. Occasionally those will pop up and you can score a good deal.

Very true. There's one locally in Cincinnati that is priced around 10k, same mileage roughly, way better shape, they have no clue which is better for enthusiasts looking to buy




-I wouldn't mind restoring this car myself, its a decent deal
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:41 PM   #69
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when i looked at this thread a single tear dripped down my right eye, and i heard.... in the aaaaaaaaarms of the angel. I quickly backed out of this thread, and ended up coming back to write this comment.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:47 PM   #70
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For the sake of comparison I just bought an identical model zhp but in much cleaner condition in and out, full maintenance records, Konis, led tail lights, and iPod integration for 9000.
Right, and you think this car is worse off? Any kind of mods I immediately assume the cars been ragged on at least a little bit. Not saying that's always a bad thing, I've bought cars that had mods in the past, but it certainly doesn't increase the value either.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #71
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If its lowered don't touch it. How I shop for used cars like ours
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:00 PM   #72
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:50 PM   #73
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:58 PM   #74
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Drool.

I want to head down there with my bmw code reader and see what shadows it has lol

This one looks nice

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Imola...f04#vi-content

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Old 09-17-2012, 06:05 PM   #75
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New headlight lenses? Why? Just get a good rubbing compound and buff out the age. Ive done it on many cars before. And as for that scratch on the fender you could EASILY use rubbing compound on that too. It dosnt look like its through the clear coat. Id buy this tomorrow, but its in LA and I am in Phoenix so its really not worth the drive

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Headlight lenses are fairly cheap on these cars, and no amount of rubbing will get those lenses back to new condition. On a car without removable lenses, it makes sense. But on these, I'd say it's a waste of effort.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:20 PM   #76
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For it's age and mileage, it doesn't look terrible. The real question is once it's on the lift...has it had it's midlife crisis and has those wear items been done? If not, budget $3-$4k to get it back to what most of us fanatics consider a 'clean' car.

But Mango, I think you are correct in the sense...if they didn't take car of the little visual stuff..what other good regular maintenance (oil changes @ 7k, etc) did they skip..and what larger issues (clutch, head gasket) could rear its ugly head earlier than normal in its 2nd phase of life (the next 5/10 years). Only those with a crystal ball can forsee this one...
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:51 AM   #77
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Ok maybe its because I'm looking at it on my cell but this car doesnt seem bad at all. Carfax checks out on it too and the dealership reviews online are good. Has anyone physically been to look at and drive this car?
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #78
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But Mango, I think you are correct in the sense...if they didn't take car of the little visual stuff..what other good regular maintenance (oil changes @ 7k, etc) did they skip..and what larger issues (clutch, head gasket) could rear its ugly head earlier than normal in its 2nd phase of life (the next 5/10 years). Only those with a crystal ball can forsee this one...
My car has many similar cosmetic defects but is getting the treatment on the important things.

So it's stupid to assume anything. Get any car inspected so you know exactly what you're getting. Be prepared to spend the $100 and walk away because it's the price of playing.
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For it's age and mileage, it doesn't look terrible. The real question is once it's on the lift...has it had it's midlife crisis and has those wear items been done? If not, budget $3-$4k to get it back to what most of us fanatics consider a 'clean' car.

But Mango, I think you are correct in the sense...if they didn't take car of the little visual stuff..what other good regular maintenance (oil changes @ 7k, etc) did they skip..and what larger issues (clutch, head gasket) could rear its ugly head earlier than normal in its 2nd phase of life (the next 5/10 years). Only those with a crystal ball can forsee this one...
I don't think that's a fair assessment to make. If I'm short on cash, I'd typically neglect a cosmetic issue over a mechanical one. For example, I have some minor damage on my rear bumper from a while back - it really cannot be noticed from a distance, but it's damaged in such a way that would require replacing the bumper. It's just not a priority at the moment (I'd rather wait a while and take it to a great body shop than half ass it).
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:45 AM   #80
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Really doesn't look bad, I mean the dealer could of done a better prep job like vacuum and clean the dashboard. Needs a good clay-paste-wax combo. Besides that if the the engine and suspension check out fine why not, offer him 8 grand.
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