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Old 04-01-2013, 03:36 PM   #901
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No where near some of the fellas here but I wanted to post a video and get some insight on form. I only recorded my last two or three sets where I may have been more fatigued to see if I maintained form. This is 255x2. Was probably my 6-7th set. Was my first time doing sole deadlfts as I usually do cleans so I didn't know my weight and had started to low. But regardless... Have at it..



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u have a slight arch in your lower back. this isnt bad cause I have the same thing. I believe it may be tight hip flexors or it may be something else. Im not sure how to correct it. I rowed for 4 yrs in high school. Rowing is close to a deadlift sideways and my coach would always tell me to get my back straight. I thought it was but the video doesnt lie. Anyway long story short that small arch in the lower back is nothing to worry about just dont let your upper back cave in (which you arent so good). I agree with dabears it kind of looks like you are lifting with the back. I would focus on activating the quads and squeezing the glutes. This will take strain off your back
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Don't trip dude. Sprained my Mcl and hamstring the other day on a slide. You got a week or two to gain some ground. Haha
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:33 PM   #904
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everything I've ever read / heard on the difference once you sort through the garbage is that it really is preference based on your body type. So the skinny of it would be "whatever feels the most comfortable". It is a bit more hip flexor / glute dominant than conventional (legs over back).

It reduces the ROM by about 14%... but that is pretty damn immaterial imo.
I'm not sure about that. Maybe the actual amount that the bar travels, but being able to use a close stance and deadlift will make everything more flexible in the long run.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:34 PM   #905
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As far as the video, keep your chest up man. It will straighten out your lower back. The first one you did it okay, second one, not so much.
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:45 AM   #906
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so i deadlifted yesterday. i do indeed feel it in my hamstrings when i do romanians. the problem is that i'm not doing so much work on my legs that they legitimately feel sore or like they got a hardcore workout. i've always felt like i'm doing work on my back (lats and lower back) and just doing secondary work on my legs. am i doing it wrong?
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so i deadlifted yesterday. i do indeed feel it in my hamstrings when i do romanians. the problem is that i'm not doing so much work on my legs that they legitimately feel sore or like they got a hardcore workout. i've always felt like i'm doing work on my back (lats and lower back) and just doing secondary work on my legs. am i doing it wrong?
I think of it like this

Regular deads are primarily back and secondary legs (I only get sore in my entire back sometimes)
Romaians are primarily Hams and secondary back (I get sore in my hams and lower back only)
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Question: when I do Deadlifts I'm finding I can get more reps if I touch the bar to the floor, the start my next rep compared with letting it sit on floor for a second or two then starting next rep (about two less reps total I get with same weight).

I think the momentum gain is minimal, and has more to do with me becoming less "rigid" when I let bar rest.

Are these considered cheat reps?
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Question: when I do Deadlifts I'm finding I can get more reps if I touch the bar to the floor, the start my next rep compared with letting it sit on floor for a second or two then starting next rep (about two less reps total I get with same weight).

I think the momentum gain is minimal, and has more to do with me becoming less "rigid" when I let bar rest.

Are these considered cheat reps?
It's considered touch and go. Plenty of people do that. I do it. I think the best bet is doing a little of everything. I may go for reps of 3 of these too.

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Yeah I always hear "it's called a DEADlift because you lift it from the floor" but it's usually in response to someone doing rack pulls.
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Very nice article about proper deadlift technique (with pictures):

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/tra...technique.html

dabears, the way you're doing it is option 2 below and is recommended by the author:

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1. Rest completely between reps, reset to a proper lifting position and pull. This treats the set like a series of singles.
2. Lower the bar into a proper deadlift position, pause briefly on the floor (without losing body position) before starting the next pull. This allows you to get some benefit of the stretch-shorten cycle and is generally a little bit easier than method 1.
3. Use a touch and go or even small bounce off the floor. For most people, I donít recommend this; most lifters wonít maintain a good back position.
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thanks that was a great read. love lyle's stuff
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thats exactly right. its really hard to keep a good back positioning when you touch and go. you tend to "yank" it more and sink your chest
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thats exactly right. its really hard to keep a good back positioning when you touch and go. you tend to "yank" it more and sink your chest
...and you can't properly brace your core when you "touch & go".
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thats exactly right. its really hard to keep a good back positioning when you touch and go. you tend to "yank" it more and sink your chest
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...and you can't properly brace your core when you "touch & go".
so do you guys think it doesn't have a place?

I personally think it's a much different feel. 225x10 touch and go beats my muscles up much more than a 275x5 with a pause does. The 275x5 will seem heavier with stop and go but I like to switch it up.
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You should focus more on the process rather than the results. Half of the time I don't even get very sore from workouts, though my numbers will definitely go up. As far as having a place, I guess if you were trying to beat the clock or something, but you are much more prone to injury obviously. Maybe 135lbs and 100 reps or something. If you can properly touch and go and keep your form then go for it. Once the bar touches the ground your arms are no longer being pulled forward from the bar
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forgot I had a video from awhile ago

this is my version of touch and go....



I think I hold form well enough? I'm not bouncing it that's for sure, I wouldn't recommend that
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You should focus more on the process rather than the results. Half of the time I don't even get very sore from workouts, though my numbers will definitely go up. As far as having a place, I guess if you were trying to beat the clock or something, but you are much more prone to injury obviously. Maybe 135lbs and 100 reps or something. If you can properly touch and go and keep your form then go for it. Once the bar touches the ground your arms are no longer being pulled forward from the bar
That's true too.

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this is my version of touch and go....



I think I hold form well enough? I'm not bouncing it that's for sure, I wouldn't recommend that
That's a slow touch and go but still a touch and go none the less. I would put that in the middle of a regular touch and go and a reset. My touch and goes are much faster, I'm sure my form breaks down a bit though.
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yeah I think when you start removing the controlled descent + add momentum, form will go out the window, or at the very least breakdown a bit (just like most exercises).
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Question, when you guys deadlift, do you ever feel like slight stretch in your lower back ? I've been doing deads for about 2 months now and no matter what, once I feel a bit fatigued from it I always feel a pull. That scares me enough to not go any further, it doesn't hurt or anything, I just feel a pull.
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