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Old 09-13-2012, 09:37 AM   #341
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That phone was awesome. It was a brick and you could probably use it to hammer a nail into a wall. I still have mine and it still works quite well for what it is. Too bad it had resistive touch and WinMo 6. Also, why did you pay $800 for it when you could have had a AT&T Tilt, which was the same thing, for ~$200.

It came with WinMo but I upgraded to Android before it was public (Alpha development copy)

It was originally an AT&T Tilt but I ended up replacing a lot of parts

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HTC also sucks as a company, they don't give a squat about developers and will hold drivers back because they would rather push a whole new model and force you to upgrade. I couldn't even use the hardware GPU, it was stuck being "soft" rendered by the CPU.


Also I was switching ROMs every other week. What a joke. Lots of suspicious things with the HTC aftermarket ROMs too, you could be sending out data to a "hacker" if you're in WiFi mode and not know it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:39 AM   #342
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I agree. Which makes upgrading from my iPhone 4 that much more of a challenge. The choice is not clear anymore
Agreed. I thought quite a bit about getting an SGS3 or a Galaxy Nexus now but I really don't want a screen that big. I have small hands (inb4smallhandsjoke) and I don't need or want a giant phone. That leaves this one. My iPhone 4 is starting to get sluggish and the battery is wearing so it's time to get a new one.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #343
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CNN says "Apple unveils smaller and faster Iphone 5." Smaller? Thinner and lighter doesn't mean "smaller" you moron lol! They should stop hiring fresh graduates from the journalism school
From a volume standpoint... it is smaller. Don't believe me... do the math, if you even know how.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:02 AM   #344
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I'm between anger and bargaining. I just read an article that says "Apple raises the bar again" and thought:

here is my logic.

i own an iphone 4 - unlocked u can pay for the upgrade plus more.

so even though the update is minimal you still break even upgrading.

it is a pain in the a$$ because i liked my jailbroken iphone. i dont care what some apple purists say - ios 6 needs tweaks.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:04 AM   #345
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Are you guys preordering this then going to the store? Pre Ordering then waiting, or just waiting in line at midnight?
seriously bro?

time = money

why would you waste your time in line with a bunch of idiots?

go home. spend time with your family. the phone can wait.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:11 AM   #346
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seriously bro?

time = money

why would you waste your time in line with a bunch of idiots?

go home. spend time with your family. the phone can wait.
So you're saying your going to order it let it arrive?

I want it for the weekend. And I don't have my own family (kids wife etc). Also, I work from my phone/computer.

Regardless if the line is stupid long I'll skip out. I had to wait 4 hours for the 4 (stupid I know but I broke my 3G and was using a motorola Razr).
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #347
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:24 AM   #348
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From a volume standpoint... it is smaller. Don't believe me... do the math, if you even know how.
If sufficiently thin and narrow it could be two feet long and be considered smaller from a volume standpoint. But is it still fair to say it is "smaller"?
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:49 AM   #349
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I will be pre-ordering a black 32g if available..

do you guys think they will release both colors at the same time this go around? I have a white 4S and love the black murdered out look of this one so I'll go black this time anyways...

with my upgrade, the 299 plus applecare and tax will net me in the upper 400's
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It seems like it does everything that my iPhone 4 does but better all in a nicer shell with a bigger screen. I don't know what people are complaining about when it comes to saying it's all "underwhelming". I think we've essentially been spoiled a bit. Back when iphone first came out, what it can and can't do improved in leaps and bounds. Now, I mean you can only do so much with a phone I feel. I think perhaps being able to use the phone as a projector would've been an awesome addition. NFC is debateably another feature which can really push the whole payment industry forward, or at least provide a tool to do it with. But at the end of the day, it's still the best overall phone on the market (that means the full package of hardware and software) that you get.
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So you're saying your going to order it let it arrive?

I want it for the weekend. And I don't have my own family (kids wife etc). Also, I work from my phone/computer.

Regardless if the line is stupid long I'll skip out. I had to wait 4 hours for the 4 (stupid I know but I broke my 3G and was using a motorola Razr).
That's 4 hours!

Definitely just ordering it online. If u wait u may not even get a phone.

Don't you work on the 21st?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:09 AM   #352
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lol at the people bitching about the phone and then saying "i'll prob get one." my stock portfolio thanks you for your donation. btw what kind of car do you drive and do you bitch about it not being a hover car yet?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:20 AM   #353
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lol at the people bitching about the phone and then saying "i'll prob get one." my stock portfolio thanks you for your donation. btw what kind of car do you drive and do you bitch about it not being a hover car yet?
The two reasons why I may get one is because it does look nice and because AT&T wouldn't start throttling my web until 5gb.

Otherwise, none of the specs are impressive. They're merely adequate. The OS is painful, too. I don't want to have to jailbreak just to have quick reply messages, but I do. I don't want to have to jailbreak to easily adjust brightness or turn WiFi/bluetooth on or off. But I do. Seriously? Why?

Why does it bother people when flaws (or unmet expectations of a company that acts like they're above all) are pointed out?

If you see value in your phone, good for you. I'm not convinced I should spend my money on it yet. But I'm trying to convince myself.
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When the 4s came out, I walked right into AT&T 15 minutes before they closed on the day it came out and bought it. No lines, and plenty of inventory.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:28 AM   #356
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iPhone 4 was plenty impressive, coming from a 3G, even though it, too, wasn't on the cutting edge anymore. I just don't know if I want to go another 2 years with just a somewhat better version of what I already own. Especially considering iOS seems so stale now.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:29 AM   #357
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When the 4s came out, I walked right into AT&T 15 minutes before they closed on the day it came out and bought it. No lines, and plenty of inventory.
then again u live in virginia.
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The two reasons why I may get one is because it does look nice and because AT&T wouldn't start throttling my web until 5gb.

Otherwise, none of the specs are impressive. They're merely adequate. The OS is painful, too. I don't want to have to jailbreak just to have quick reply messages, but I do. I don't want to have to jailbreak to easily adjust brightness or turn WiFi/bluetooth on or off. But I do. Seriously? Why?

Why does it bother people when flaws (or unmet expectations of a company that acts like they're above all) are pointed out?

If you see value in your phone, good for you. I'm not convinced I should spend my money on it yet. But I'm trying to convince myself.
ok, these are tangible concerns about the phone. do other phones address these shortcomings?

but the general statement that it is not impressive has no basis on its own. is there a phone out there that does "wow" you? if not, then maybe you should readjust your expectations.
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then again u live in virginia.
and we know they probably all have androids there.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:35 AM   #360
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I jail broke my 4s, and it was worse than iOS. Crashed multiple times, no free apps worth a damn, pretty much no benefit.

When the 4s released, phone stores ran out quickly, but apple stores usually had stock.
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