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Old 09-27-2012, 09:51 AM   #61
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If thats real, thats a totally bad ass pic.
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If thats real, thats a totally bad ass pic.
Found it posted online, so not 100% sure...and of course people are debating in the comments. Others are saying it is probable as planes flying in can be seen at that altitude.

I'm hoping it is real, amazing photo.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:32 AM   #64
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Found it posted online, so not 100% sure...and of course people are debating in the comments. Others are saying it is probable as planes flying in can be seen at that altitude.

I'm hoping it is real, amazing photo.
It looks like its taken on Sepulveda, facing south, since the street in the foreground is La Tijera. Sepulveda goes right under the approaches to the LAX runways when the planes are landing to the west. If you could see through that office bldg on the right, you'd see the airport perimeter fence and runways.

So it's absolutely true that airplanes fly there at that altitude. And Endeavour/SCA did a flyby of the LAX runways before they went to most of the places in LA, so that would explain why the SCA is gear-up in the pic.

It's for sure not when they landed, because there's no way they'd be that close with the gear still up, and I'm pretty sure the escorts weren't in that relative position.

Anyway, it could be real. I'm with you in hoping it is.
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It looks like its taken on Sepulveda, facing south, since the street in the foreground is La Tijera. Sepulveda goes right under the approaches to the LAX runways when the planes are landing to the west. If you could see through that office bldg on the right, you'd see the airport perimeter fence and runways.

So it's absolutely true that airplanes fly there at that altitude. And Endeavour/SCA did a flyby of the LAX runways before they went to most of the places in LA, so that would explain why the SCA is gear-up in the pic.

It's for sure not when they landed, because there's no way they'd be that close with the gear still up, and I'm pretty sure the escorts weren't in that relative position.

Anyway, it could be real. I'm with you in hoping it is.
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Looks pretty accurate for the runway fly by. Planes do get that low over sepulveda on landings. I've seen a bunch of planes land there but most are smaller planes like southwest, etc. This looks out of place since its a jumbo jet.
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Looks pretty accurate for the runway fly by. Planes do get that low over sepulveda on landings. I've seen a bunch of planes land there but most are smaller planes like southwest, etc. This looks out of place since its a jumbo jet.
Yeah, I ride on the beach path that goes right under the other end of the runways. Occasionally a 747 or A380 takes off when I'm riding by and I'm always struck by how BIG they are. They seem like they're barely moving even when they're going 200+ mph.
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So apparently a Tundra has a 300,000 lb towing capacity: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-bridge.html

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A specialized robotic transporter will carry the space shuttle most of the way between Los Angeles International Airport and its permanent home at the California Science Center in Exposition Park next week during a two-day, 12-mile trek through city streets.

But because the transporter is not on the Caltrans list of vehicles approved for towing over bridges, Toyota stepped in, volunteering a Tundra truck to tow Endeavour across the 405 Freeway on West Manchester Boulevard, said William Harris, senior vice president of development and marketing at the Science Center. A special dolly will be used to help the truck with the haul.

It's a scene that seems made for a commercial. And it may well end up in one - the automaker plans to film the truck during its portion of the move.

One Toyota official said the event is "a great opportunity for Tundra and the Toyota brand." Jaymie Robinson, a public relations strategist for Toyota, said the company is looking at all of its marketing options, "a commercial being one of them."

Officials with the city of Los Angeles, which is helping coordinate the trip, said they were only recently made aware of the possible filming of a commercial. An official with FilmLA, which issues film permits, said it was contacted by the production company that will be filming the event and expects to receive a permit application in the coming days.

Toyota is not paying the Science Center to shoot a commercial, according to Michael Rouse, Toyota's vice president of diversity, philanthropy and community affairs.

But he said the car company has donated $8 million to $10 million to the Science Center since the early 1990s and has contributed "seven figures" to the museum's current expansion efforts, which include building an exhibit space for the Endeavour.

Toyota has made next week's affair a major marketing event, with a special Tundra Endeavour website devoted to the truck as it "tows its way into history."

When it has been relieved of its load, the Tundra used to haul the space shuttle will be displayed inside the museum.
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Awesome pic. Looks like the beginning of a disaster movie when everyone in town is trying to leave.
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So my dumb ass believed the schedule online that she'd be leaving LAX at 2 am and be at her first stop in Inglewood at 4 am. I drove over to Sepulveda and La Tijera to watch her come by, got there about 1:30 am to stake out a good spot.

There were a TON of resources involved, and every time there was some flurry of activity of official vehicles coming or going, we'd get excited thinking she was just about to come around the corner, only to be let down. When the bomb squad trucks came through, driving down each side of the street, looking into every nook and cranny and bush, I thought she couldn't be too far behind. That was at like 2:45 am. She didn't even come into view at my spot until 4:10 am or so.

Twice while I watched her, they had to stop her to trim back a tree. Honestly, with as much prep as they did for this trip, and as much as they knew about her height and width, I was surprised the route wasn't completely ready for her.

The upside to that was that because she was stopped for a while, I got a chance to take pics with one lens, go back to the car to switch lenses and move down the street a bit to take some more. The light sucked, so I ended up taking the pics with a fairly slow shutter speed and the flash set to rear curtain. Seemed to work OK, but they're still pretty average.

The downside is I was out there until 5:30 am or so. So much for sleep on Thursday night. All in all it was worth it though.

Stopped juuuuuust out of view for a tree branch trimming. There was a truck preceding her with these brutally bright lights, so I used hoodie's head to block those in order to make her nose visible (left side peeking out from behind the tree.










One of the rear carry vehicles. All 6 pairs of wheels steer:








As I was driving home, I realized the moon had risen in the east and Venus was in close attendance. But I was shooting from the south, facing north. I wished then that I'd picked a better spot so I could maybe get them in a few shots with the shuttle.

This is the last pic I took as I headed back to my car. It wasn't until I put the pics on the computer that I realized that the moon and Venus are visible on the right side, just above the building. Crappy pic, but I smiled when I saw it.



Part of her motorcade was this Suburban. The front seaters are LAPD, I wanted to ask the passenger how many porn channels she can pick up with that dish.





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When a NASA Space Shuttle lifts off the launch pad, it does so with the help of three reusable, high-performance rocket engines. Each of these powerful main engines is 14 feet (4.2 meters) long, weighs approximately 7,000 pounds (3,150 kilograms) and is 7.5 feet (2.25 meters) in diameter at the end of its nozzle.

Developed in the 1970s by NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., the Space Shuttle Main Engine is the world's most sophisticated reusable rocket engine.

The engines operate for about eight-and-one-half minutes during liftoff and ascent -- long enough to burn more than 500,000 gallons (1.9 million liters) of super-cold liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen propellants stored in the huge external tank attached to the underside of the Shuttle. Liquid oxygen is stored at -298 degrees Fahrenheit (-183 degrees Celsius) and liquid hydrogen at -423 degrees Fahrenheit (-250 degrees Celsius). The engines shut down just before the Shuttle, traveling at about 17,000 mph, reaches orbit.

NASA continues to increase the reliability and safety of Shuttle flights through a series of enhancements to the Space Shuttle Main Engines. The engines were modified in 1988, again in 1995, and more improvements are being developed in 2000.

The newest modifications include new high-pressure fuel and oxidizer turbopumps, a two-duct powerhead, a single-coil heat exchanger and a large-throat main combustion chamber.

High-Pressure Turbopump

Each engine has two powerful high-pressure turbopumps that supply up to 970 pounds (440 kilograms) of liquid oxygen per second and up to 162 pounds (73 kilograms) of liquid hydrogen fuel per second to the engine's main combustion chamber. In this chamber, the hydrogen propellant and oxygen oxidizer mix and burn at high pressures and at temperatures exceeding 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit (3,315 degrees Celsius) to produce thrust.

The current hydrogen turbopump design, with 20-year-old technology, requires pump removal and maintenance between flights. It features welded construction, which requires meticulous inspections.

In early 2001, the first flight is expected of a redesigned hydrogen turbopump. The new design uses a unique casting process to eliminate welds, significantly increasing the number of missions between major overhauls.

The current design requires special coatings for thermal protection to the turbine blade airfoils. In the new turbopump design, these coatings are no longer necessary because the hardware is constructed of materials that are more heat tolerant and less sensitive to the hydrogen environment.

Also incorporated into the improved pumps is a new bearing. Bearings separate high-speed rotating parts from stationary parts and prevent friction between the two. The new bearings are made of silicon nitride -- ceramic material 30 percent harder and 40 percent lighter than steel. They have an ultra-smooth finish that produces less friction during pump operation.

In July 1995, a redesigned oxygen turbopump first flew on a Shuttle.

Two-Duct Powerhead

Considered the backbone of the engine, the powerhead consists of the main injector and two preburners, or small combustion chambers. Liquid oxygen and hydrogen are partially burned in the preburners, generating hot gases. The liquids continue to move through ducts into the main combustion chamber, while the gases created in these chambers drive the high-pressure turbopumps, which give the Shuttle thrust.

The two-duct hot gas manifold is a new powerhead design that first flew on the Shuttle in July 1995. It significantly improves fluid flows in the system by decreasing pressure and turbulence, thus reducing maintenance and enhancing the overall performance of the engine.

The previous powerhead featured five tube-like ducts -- three on one side of the engine where hot gases flow from the fuel turbine, and two on the side where hot gases flow from the oxidizer turbine. The two-duct hot gas manifold replaced the three small fuel ducts with two enlarged ducts -- smoothing the fuel flow, reducing pressure and turbulence, and lowering temperatures in the engine during operation. This design reduces stress on the main injector and requires fewer welds, eliminating potential weak spots in the powerhead.

Single-Coil Heat Exchanger

The Shuttle's engines supply pressure to the external tank, which in turn provides propellants to the engines. This pressure is produced by the engine's heat exchanger, a 40-foot-long (12-meter) piece of coiled stainless steel alloy tubing.

To pressurize the external tank, liquid oxygen is routed through the tubing, which passes through the engine's hot gas manifold. Hot exhaust from the high-pressure oxidizer turbopump turbine heats the alloy tubing. As the tubing gets hot, so does the liquid oxygen. The oxygen reaches about 500 degrees Fahrenheit (260 degrees Celsius) and supplies pressure to the external tank. The external tank delivers liquid oxygen at the correct pressures to the Shuttle main engines, and the oxidizer ultimately mixes with the liquid hydrogen at engine ignition.

Until mid-1995, the heat exchanger had seven welds in the 40-foot (12-meter) tube. Welding can change the properties of a metal and have flaws. The newly designed exchanger is a continuous piece of stainless steel alloy with no welds. The increased thickness of the redesigned heat exchanger reduces wear on the tube and lessens the chances of damage. It also reduces maintenance and post-flight inspections. Beginning with the STS-70 mission in July 1995, a new enhanced single-coil heat exchanger has flown on each Shuttle.

Large Throat Main Combustion Chamber

A Shuttle engine's main combustion chamber is where the liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen are mixed and burned to provide thrust. In January 1998, the first large throat main combustion chamber flew on the STS-89 Shuttle mission. The throat of the new chamber is about 10 percent larger than the previous design -- improving the engine's reliability by reducing pressure and temperature in the chamber and throughout the engine.

This allows the high-pressure pumps to operate at lower turbine temperatures and pressures. It improves chamber cooling and extends the life of the hardware. The new large throat main combustion chamber is cast from large pieces of metal, rather than constructed of smaller pieces welded together. In addition to reducing the number of welds, casting also reduces the assembly time and labor required to build and to maintain the hardware.
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I have to admit, there were people from really far away who cameto see this move, talked to one from utah and another from arizona. When we were stuck and got out of our car as there was no other choice,this special forces guy kept saying, "that thing has been to space 23times!"

Also during the day, the good year blimp started showing facts about the endeavor over head, I saw two air shows above my backyard and this airship/helicopter was floating above LA for the entire night/morning and afternoon.
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I got to spend a little time with the shuttle last thursday. I also put these up in another thread so pls ignore the repost if you already saw them. These are just the camera phone images. I don't want to put up the higher res ones yet.








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I have to admit, there were people from really far away who cameto see this move, talked to one from utah and another from arizona. When we were stuck and got out of our car as there was no other choice,this special forces guy kept saying, "that thing has been to space 23times!"

Also during the day, the good year blimp started showing facts about the endeavor over head, I saw two air shows above my backyard and this airship/helicopter was floating above LA for the entire night/morning and afternoon.
I actually had my bike in the back of my car and had riding stuff (helmet, lights, etc) with me in anticipation of not being able to get very close in the car and needing to move around to find a viewing spot. But I lucked out on the location and I think the middle-of-the-night crowds were probably smaller than the ones later on Friday.

After a week and a half of friggin' heat wave, it was cold that night. Go figure.
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