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Old 09-21-2012, 06:17 PM   #1
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You think I can do the valve cover replacement with out a torque wrench

I'm getting ready to do the job in the morning. I don't own a torque wrench. Can I get away without using one?

Can you give me an idea how many turns 7.5 ft/lbs is?

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:19 PM   #2
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #3
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I did mine without one too just do it but dnt turn too tight

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:27 PM   #4
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Why not just rent one from your local parts store (Autozone, O'Reilly, etc.)? It's free anyway as long as you return it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:29 PM   #5
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Why not just rent one from your local parts store (Autozone, O'Reilly, etc.)? It's free anyway as long as you return it.


Ask them when it was last calibrated though. If its been more than a few months find another one.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:29 PM   #6
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Why not just rent one from your local parts store (Autozone, O'Reilly, etc.)? It's free anyway as long as you return it.

Did not know this.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:29 PM   #7
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Yes, it's not bad, and rarely do people even have a torque wrench that goes that low.

Tips:
-The nuts will thread on easily, get a little harder to turn as they are compressing the rubber, and then bottom out. STOP tightening once the nut feels like it bottoms out.
-Lube up the nuts within the seals so they are easier to turn and you can tell when the nuts hit the bottom.
-Tightening the nuts in a criss-crossing pattern to evenly compress the gasket and avoid over-tightening.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:31 PM   #8
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Yes, it's not bad, and rarely do people even have a torque wrench that goes that low.
That's true, mine has a min of 10 ft-lbs
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:39 PM   #9
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As Miles pointed out, the nuts bottom out. Use this as your guide and you'll be fine.

Tip : Go slow. The resistance will be subtle, and it doesn't take much to reach that final torque.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:43 PM   #10
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Tighten down in stages, too...I did three passes.

Also, if you haven't gotten the gasket, I've been reading about Reinz gaskets having had some issues. For the amount of work involved, I'd recommend sourcing OE gasket for the extra $10-15.

If you haven't done this ever, then new grommets are always recommended...and yes, I've done a few vcg without torque...and the advice to stop when you bottom out is right on!

Some use blue loctite...I didn't...but when I went to replace my Reinz gasket after a year, they were all still tight.

This is the time many do the vanos seals too, you know.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:59 PM   #11
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Tighten down in stages, too...I did three passes.

Also, if you haven't gotten the gasket, I've been reading about Reinz gaskets having had some issues. For the amount of work involved, I'd recommend sourcing OE gasket for the extra $10-15.

If you haven't done this ever, then new grommets are always recommended...and yes, I've done a few vcg without torque...and the advice to stop when you bottom out is right on!

Some use blue loctite...I didn't...but when I went to replace my Reinz gasket after a year, they were all still tight.

This is the time many do the vanos seals too, you know.
Thanks dmax, I have the grommets. I am going to skip the vanos seals replacement because that is a little more in depth. I will replace those if they cause a problem. Actually I even decided not to replace the plugs because the car has only 43K.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:00 PM   #12
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wow i literally did this job yesterday. i have a torque wrench i got at walmart for thirty bucks. its been a life saver for taking the exhaust off and the drive shaft. i didnt even use mine on it. it was a pita.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:02 PM   #13
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ps dont drop the washers in the valves like i did oh and you might as well change the spark plugs while you're doing it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:03 PM   #14
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:35 PM   #15
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Just completed the job. This is my first major job and it's a good feeling.

I am attaching three pictures. Can you tell me if you see anything wrong with the last three? I thought the gasket was actually in pretty good shape and I removed it in one piece. It was soft and not brittle. Hopefully this will solve the white smoke issue. I also chose to do the job without a torque wrench.

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Old 09-25-2012, 05:38 PM   #16
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On any car that I've ever worked on, anything less than about 15 lbs Tq and I've never used a Tq wrench and never had a leak. On my valve cover gasket, there's about 40,000 miles since I'd changed it and still no leaks. Never use one on the oil filter cap either - no leaks.

I'd bet that about 90% of professional mechanics out there aren't using a Tq wrench on these either (watch them if you have an opportunity).

When I removed my original gasket it was also soft and pliable (about 70,000 miles on it).

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Old 09-25-2012, 05:41 PM   #17
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White some from the exhaust or from the engine bay?

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Old 09-25-2012, 05:46 PM   #18
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Ok, I am probably late to reply.
I used the victor reinz gasket. After 4 months it leaked, and not a small leak. A massive leak.

I have also broken a couple of studs that hold the VC.
I'd recommend a torque wrench.

Get one from harbor frieght $19.99 and with 20% off coupon.
I got mine today 5 to 80 ft pounds for $15.
Already have a 20 to 200 ft one.
They also have the inch one for the same price with 1/4" drive. Thinking to get that too.

As for your engine, it looks clean.
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I also didn't get much longevity with the Victor Reinz VCG. 36k and it was starting to leak at the front.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:08 PM   #20
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The Victor Reinz is what Bavauto is stocking. I thought they would give me the best product.
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