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Old 04-16-2017, 07:56 AM   #1
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Wont go into 5th after shifter rebuild!

So yesterday while I was tackling the E60 short shifter job on my 2003 330i, I figured it would only make sense to replace everything down there as well. I followed this DIY (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=900208) and replaced the following parts:
E60 shift lever, shifter ball mount, shifter idler arm, dowel pin, shifter idler arm trans mount bushing, gear selector input shaft joint, and bearing pin.

I bought this kit off ECS: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...25111221849kt/

And this OEM shifter bushing separately: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/25117507695/

Installation was a pain but everything went in according to the diy. (I am very aware of the detent problem with 5th and reverse by the way) Shifts into gears 1-4 smooth with car off. Still goes into R and 5th but not too smooth. I know when the cars off the transmissions not moving so that's why it will go in. Now when the car is on, it will go into reverse okay but not great, probably worse feeling than before install. Now when attempting to shift into 5th, it makes a horrible dinging noise before it can go in and won't go in. It went in at least before the install so I'm out of ideas. Does it need to break in? Could I have put something in wrong? Thanks guys
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:11 AM   #2
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I'd make sure your shift linkage is orientated in the right direction, the dinging noise makes me think its hitting the driveshaft.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:15 AM   #3
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I'd make sure your shift linkage is orientated in the right direction, the dinging noise makes me think its hitting the driveshaft.


That's what I thought too but I didn't see how it could hit the driveshaft, it's a constant noise when trying to go into fifth only stops when you move the shifter away from 5th. Oh well, will take everything apart again and check. I know the linkage is slightly different on each side, is there any pictures how it should be oriented?


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Old 04-16-2017, 08:20 AM   #5
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you could take it apart from the top to make sure everything is in the right place per this diy,http://www.e46fanatics.com/howto/how...php?howto_id=4
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:32 PM   #6
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do you have a five speed or six speed?
i take it the usual suspect like the shift lever installed correct direction? you'd be surprised.
that new lever sits lower at the ball, meaning that shift rod is going to be lower angle and add to being able to hit things. not sure rod it's able to be installed along the passenger side as opposed to drivers side. I've done a few SSK and some are proven to need some tweaking of selector rod while others clear it.

*I have no prior history with this lever in your DIY, so only providing some theories to help. GL
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:05 PM   #7
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I took it apart and found the transmission idler mount was not in on both sides, causing the linkage to drop down and one of the clips to hit the driveshaft. Everything is in the right position now and shifts great. However there is still a very faint noise and I suspect it's just a clearance issue with the shifter sitting lower itself.


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do you have a five speed or six speed?

i take it the usual suspect like the shift lever installed correct direction? you'd be surprised.

that new lever sits lower at the ball, meaning that shift rod is going to be lower angle and add to being able to hit things. not sure rod it's able to be installed along the passenger side as opposed to drivers side. I've done a few SSK and some are proven to need some tweaking of selector rod while others clear it.



*I have no prior history with this lever in your DIY, so only providing some theories to help. GL


It's a 5 speed, the shift linkage can only be installed on the drivers side, I meant rotated 180 degrees. I have a feeling the shifter sitting lower is just going to cause an incurable slight noise. Oh well, at least it shifts smooth now.


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Old 04-17-2017, 11:50 AM   #9
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im using the e60 lever as well, make sure the selector rod is in the correct orientation...it has a slight hump in it to clear the driveshaft flex disk. i have no clearance issues with mine and from what i've gathered as long as installed correctly there shouldn't be any issues.
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #10
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im using the e60 lever as well, make sure the selector rod is in the correct orientation...it has a slight hump in it to clear the driveshaft flex disk. i have no clearance issues with mine and from what i've gathered as long as installed correctly there shouldn't be any issues.


Yes I need to flip mine around


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Old 04-17-2017, 12:26 PM   #11
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im using the e60 lever as well, make sure the selector rod is in the correct orientation...it has a slight hump in it to clear the driveshaft flex disk. i have no clearance issues with mine and from what i've gathered as long as installed correctly there shouldn't be any issues.
Yep, and the damn thing looked almost perfectly straight in my case.

It sure as hell isn't!
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Yep, and the damn thing looked almost perfectly straight in my case.



It sure as hell isn't!


What happened to yours when it wasn't installed correctly?


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What happened to yours when it wasn't installed correctly?


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It ended up touching the flex-disc / guibo.

With the car in neutral, rolling down my driveway, the shifter would violently jerk left & right as the driveshaft started rotating.

Flipped it around & all was well.
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It ended up touching the flex-disc / guibo.



With the car in neutral, rolling down my driveway, the shifter would violently jerk left & right as the driveshaft started rotating.



Flipped it around & all was well.


After the drive home last night (3 miles) I don't hear any noise any more, shifter isn't jerking and doesn't seem to be hitting. So maybe it is installed the right way, as all seems to be well now.


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