We Are Change

Originally Posted by Drex

If you are willing to accept things as truth or safe because some "official" says so or because it is "legal", without questioning the motives behind it, then you are essentially an unconscious being that does not know it is unconscious. You are being steered to think and behave in very specific ways.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

I think there is some credibility in questioning the details underlying the events of 9/11, because there are some oddities.


Chemtrails?

Originally Posted by evolved

Chemtrails?

Chemtrails are my favorite

Originally Posted by evolved

I think there is some credibility in questioning the details underlying the events of 9/11, because there are some oddities.


Chemtrails?

Public knowledge and government confirmed that they have released and do release chemicals, viruses, etc into the air, water, etc

These are facts

Originally Posted by JonJon

Public knowledge and government confirmed that they have released and do release chemicals, viruses, etc into the air, water, etc

These are facts

Via contrails?

Show me these facts.

Originally Posted by evolved

Via contrails?

Show me these facts.

Originally Posted by JonJon

Cute birds

So, that's a no?

Even if you are still in denial about chemtrails, spend at least 3 minutes of that video looking at the pictures...There has been plenty of disclosure on chemtrails, it is no longer a theory, but a fact. If you are still in denial it is because you are too afraid to grasp such a potentially frightening reality. Sorry to say.

Originally Posted by evolved

So, that's a no?

I'll post some mo later. Tied up

Originally Posted by Drex

Thank you. You raise a great point about spoon feeding. Everyone is used to being spoon fed their "news" their food and their laws without ever questioning the motives behind them. The "proles" have been taught to embrace conformity via the television and to reject outside ideas which cause them to question the little bubble of false-reality that they live in.

If you are willing to accept things as truth or safe because some "official" says so or because it is "legal", without questioning the motives behind it, then you are essentially an unconscious being that does not know it is unconscious. You are being steered to think and behave in very specific ways.

The irony is that this is your response to the people who are questioning the motives behind your videos.

I love when people cite pictures of contrails and know it must be a chemtrail, because water vapor could never condense at low pressures.

Are race teams secretly spraying the crows with mind control chemicals?! The evidence is right in front of us!

Originally Posted by cowmoo32

I love when people cite pictures of air condensing and just know it must be a chemtrail.

Here's one for you to mull over. Are race teams secretly spraying the crows with mind control chemicals?!

Are the F1 trails lingering in the air all day and turning in to hazy clouds? I honestly think you are in such denial that you have not done any legitimate research and you also never spend any length of time observing the sky.

Originally Posted by brew

The irony is that this is your response to the people who are questioning the motives behind your videos.

I'm not sure I see what you are talking about here? What irony?

Originally Posted by Drex

Are the F1 trails lingering in the air all day and turning in to hazy clouds? I honestly think you are in such denial that you have not done any legitimate research and you also never spend any length of time observing the sky.

You assume entirely too much. I'm a landscape photographer by hobby, how much time do you think I spend alone staring at the sky? And you're accusing me, of all people on the forums, of not doing my homework? That's laughable.

Consider this: A person or persons in power want to distribute a chemical to the masses. Why use a plane? The government sprayed DDT from trucks for years and no one had any problems. If they knew a chemical worked, then why not use the cheapest means to poison the public? And why spray it at all? That's entirely too visible. Distribute it in the water supply (I'm guessing this is when the fluoride conspiracy pops up). By the time anyone questions you then it's already too late and even if they do, you can have them killed or produce "scientific" papers countering their argument. I think you are too fixated on chemicals being sprayed from commercial airliners.

Look I know you are an intelligent person and outside of these topics I find what you have to say interesting. I know you do a lot of research and participation in the science thread but that does not mean that you are going to necessarily spend a lot of time researching a topic that may threaten your comfort zone. Facts are Facts and it is a fact that planes are spraying aerosols in massive quantities in all NATO countries on this planet. Government officials, scientists and even the pilots themselves have come out and said this spraying is occurring. How can you continue to flat out deny it? If your stance on this topic remains the same then there is no point in continuing this conversation with you.

When I find something interesting I usually read about it from every angle, it's the only way to form a true opinion. I've sat for hours reading about different conspiracy theories and they're highly interesting, there's no denying that, but I don't believe there is enough evidence supporting any of them to be 100% true. Yes, I believe that planes have sprayed aerosols over the US at some point in our history, but to believe that we are regularly being blanketed with MIND CONTROL CHEMICALS is off the charts insane. Are you so convinced that you walk around wearing breathing protection? I seriously doubt it. So until that day comes, entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, those theories started with a small grain of truth and have been stretched to the extreme.

I wear my tinfoil hat and PAPR everywhere I go. I'm safe from min control.

Except for the pickles. I love pickles. And those are definitely laced with mind control drugs.

Originally Posted by CRZY BMW

This thread surely doesnt belong in the political forum...

This thread belongs in poli talk as much as a discussion about the Stargate system and the impending Goa'uld attack does.

Not sure why you stress the "mind control" part of chemtrails. I have never even mentioned that aspect. However it is a fact that heavy metals, viruses, and other chemical compounds have been confirmed. Heavy metals in the soils across the northern hemisphere have been rapidly rising in the past several years, particularly barium, aluminum and strontium. Thousands of independent lab tests have confirmed sharp rises in these metals. So if they are blanketing the surface of the planet then is it not obvious that you must be breathing and absorbing it in to your own body? Did you give anyone permission to do this? Did any of us give permission? What is the goal of this "project" and what are the long term side effects? Are these not reasonable questions to ask of a global project shrouded in secrecy, where you and I are all the guinea pigs?

And it's not possible these heavy elements are the result of natural processes? That's totally out of the realm of possibility? For medical reasons I have had multiple blood panels done in the past year, and one of those actually tested for heavy metals. Guess what came back. Everything was normal.