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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 10-09-2014, 07:54 AM   #1
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To the SMG owners..Would you do it again?

Would you buy another SMG?
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #2
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I wouldn't buy another one because I wouldn't sell this one
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:27 PM   #3
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Lol... Good answer! :-)


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Old 10-10-2014, 09:55 AM   #4
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I know I have 450rhp with a 410 gear set up with a light weight flywheel it is somuch easyer to shift with smg with the lwfw the rpm's go up very fast I lov how the smg handles the shifts......
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:41 AM   #5
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I love my SMG and have not had any issues in my almost 3 years of ownership. I am also really happy with the Evolve Tune with the SMG rev match.

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Old 10-10-2014, 10:53 AM   #6
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That's a good question...I have an SMG in my M3, but had manual in other cars before. I've never tracked my M3 and to be more precise, I would definitely buy another SMG if I plan on tracking the car. :-)


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Old 10-10-2014, 10:57 AM   #7
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Maybe a DCT but not an smg.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:10 AM   #8
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I just got rid of my smg. I had gotten use to most of the quirks and loved the car but now that I'm back in a manual I wouldn't want another. I had the csl flash which made it easier but not perfect

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Old 10-11-2014, 01:27 PM   #9
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Stock vs stock, yes! The stock 6spd is long and sloppy...
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Old 10-13-2014, 06:45 AM   #10
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I wouldn't buy another one because I wouldn't sell this one
100% Agree. When I bought mine I had to have a ZCP and SMG was way easier to find. I was nervous at first with all of the bad info on the internet. Seriously it's awesome....

P.s. I've only owned manual cars
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:45 PM   #12
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I bought my AW E46 M back in 2011 for $21,500with 57k and sold approx2 years later for $22 with 73k. So its not a resale issue for me.
If I had a 6MT AW I would have kept it. However, if I didn't buy and sell the SMG car I would have never been in a position to buy another E30 M3 and swap an S54 etc.

SMG didn't feel natural to me.
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Old 10-15-2014, 07:50 PM   #13
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I bought my AW E46 M back in 2011 for $21,500with 57k and sold approx2 years later for $22 with 73k. So its not a resale issue for me.
If I had a 6MT AW I would have kept it. However, if I didn't buy and sell the SMG car I would have never been in a position to buy another E30 M3 and swap an S54 etc.

SMG didn't feel natural to me.
Exactly what he said, I just recently sold mine and now in the market for 6spd e46 m3. Don't get me wrong i liked smg but even when driving it i craved that 3rd pedal for some reason...
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To the SMG owners..Would you do it again?

Have owned one for almost two years now. I have replaced everything msg related and still love it. I dunno, I guess I am crazy
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:59 AM   #15
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Im trying to get used to mine

what program are you guys using for daily driving?

How often do you drive it in sport mode?

I find myself using it in auto "D" mode 90 percent of the time because I live in a highly dense city area and am in traffic quite a bit.

I'm trying to learn when and what re: changing modes as traffic conditions change for me.

Plan to do a drive down Hwy 1 soon to run the coastal twisties to try out the different programs to see which fits my driving style best, but around the city, they all seem weird in terms of shift times.

Downshift delays are particularly in need of me getting used to. In my previous 6sm M3, I let my foot off the clutch and downshifted. In this SMG, I hit the - paddle and theres that 3 second gap before the downshift kicks in.

You have to reset your drive timing in your brain all over again to get smooth with it.

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I agree you have to adjust your driving time in your brain to make it smooth. I only use s5 and no sport mode. It is almost impossible to not spin the wheels in 1st in sport. But sometimes on the highway I enjoy the quickness of sport mode. Hill assist is rather cool as well.
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:15 PM   #17
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:54 PM   #18
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I agree you have to adjust your driving time in your brain to make it smooth. I only use s5 and no sport mode. It is almost impossible to not spin the wheels in 1st in sport. But sometimes on the highway I enjoy the quickness of sport mode. Hill assist is rather cool as well.

Dumb question: Is hill assist a setting or just a part of the system?
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:04 PM   #19
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I'd think the opposite....

I came from a manual car and SMG forces you learn to drive all over again.

I'd say it would take at least a week of daily driving to get used to the shift points and more importantly shift timing.

But sh|t, it takes me an hour getting used to the different braking pedal pressures between my truck and M3 when I switch back and forth between vehicles. I tend not to concentrate on the subliminal aspects of driving like I used to when I was younger.

I have an interesting question: How many people who live in cities with SMG's use the manual gearing in daily traffic?

I hate to admit it but I've used my paddles the first three days I got the car and have not used them again yet. Ive owned my car about a month. As I said, I plan to take a trip real soon to a road worthy of "paddle driving" but unless I'm showing off to a passenger, I go the lazy route in city driving.

Am I missing out? I also have a convertible so that may have something to do with my mind set of just chilling.

I ran into a guy who was about 55 years old with a F430 in a parking lot with F1 and I happened to ask him how often he drives his Ferrari manually and he told me once or twice (he also had his top up on a 90 degree day which puzzled the hell out of me). I definitely prefer the option of SMG in terms of versatility over manual or auto but I have yet to really explore that funner side of my car.

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Hill assist: you must be on a hill (does not work on flat ground) with the brake depressed pull the (-) paddle and hold it in. The car will rev and you can release the brake and not roll backwards.

I personally have tried auto about 2 Times. I cannot stand the chosen shift points on auto mode and have only used it when on my cell phone.

We all know this topic is such a subjective topic. All opinions will change person to person. Everyone must drive both for more than a week to know what they like and don't like.
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