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Old 10-15-2012, 12:40 PM   #41
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All of a sudden, someone needs to be held accountable for another's Suicide. Things are going down hill in the country faster than ever.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:45 PM   #42
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I didn't know that you grew up during the time period where the popularity of giving children these electronics originated/grew and experienced it first hand.

My apologies.
Seeing as how you don't have a child to be responsible for, nor do you even have to consider anything in any aspect of child care, your perspective on the subject only comes from an uneducated judgment of what it must be like. TV shows and movies quite possibly shape your opinion, as actual experience is absent.

You're forgiven. When you have a child you will know.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:01 PM   #43
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I don't get how you all keep saying she did this to herself... she made a mistake and she was harassed because of it. So she moved to a different city, went to a different school and then some guy stalked her. And you all keep saying how she should have deleted her facebook, but it doesn't even matter if she did, the guy made a different facebook page and used her topless picture as his profile picture... then added all her friends. That caused her to get harassed at her new school... they got a group of people to beat her up, she was found in a ditch by her dad. People would post pictures of bleach and dumpsters on her facebook, telling her that she should kill herself. Initially it was her fault, after she moved it should have been done.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:18 PM   #44
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All of a sudden, someone needs to be held accountable for another's Suicide. Things are going down hill in the country faster than ever.
the dude made her send him nude pics. She was 12.

Last time i checked kiddie porn was not legal.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #45
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Yes, he put a gun up to her head and forced her to take pics of her tits and masturbate on camera.
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Yes, he put a gun up to her head and forced her to take pics of her tits and masturbate on camera.
Where did it say she masturbated? I thought she flashed and he took pictures without her knowledge?
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:05 PM   #47
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sounds like her parents were not helpful at all and didn't take it seriously enough. and why did she keep making facebook profiles and reacting to the taunts? some people need to learn how to deal with a bit of bullying.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:14 PM   #48
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Kaput, you can teach your kids. That doesn't mean you have some sort of telepathic mind control. She certainly knew what she was doing was not wise. It was an effort to get attention. And it worked... in the worst possible way. Bad parenting? That's a bit of a stretch considering the information you have.
That is the point. SHE knew what she was doing was not wise. The 12 year old made a decision to do something. The tdchnology was not at fault. I would bet, that the parents (if both are around) will be seen on 20/20 crying about all the attention they gave their kid, and we will find out she was bad in school, and just wanted a huig. The world will cry, and parents around the globe will go drilling out iMacs and laptops so their kids won't get caught up with some pedophile online.

Fact is, that if as a parent, you stand up to your kids, and learn to talk to them, and teach them right, things like this are a non-issue. Sure they will mess up from time to time, but not like this.

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what does a 12 year old need a webcam for? and what 10 year old has "friends around the world"? are we talking about e-friends? if so, that's where many internet related problems begin.
My nephew has friends that live in various places around the world. The town where we live is a major military hub, and families move here and leave all the time. It is vary easy to acquire friends everywhere if you live in a place like this. He plays minecraft with them and chats over facetime.

Sounds like you should have listened to Joe when he said "bit of a stretch considering the information you have".
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Apparently everyone on this forum was a mature, responsible 12 year old and never made a bad decision.
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To those of you saying this was her fault or that she deserved it, you are assholes. She made one single mistake by showing her tits on cam and she was exploited for it. I'm sure there are many teenage or even preteen girls who have flashed their tits on a webcam. The only problem is that she did it to the wrong guy who exploited her for it.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:37 PM   #51
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a 12 year old also doesn't need a laptop, or a cell phone. Idk why people feel sorry for this girl. What an idiot. She dealt with her own consequences in her own way.
You are a heartless prick.
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Apparently everyone on this forum was a mature, responsible 12 year old and never made a bad decision.
lol seriously The things I would have done on a webcam at 12 years old. I fuucking cried when Michael Jordan retired for christ sake.
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Yes, he put a gun up to her head and forced her to take pics of her tits and masturbate on camera.
Holy ****...that's why there are laws against sex with minors. Consent is not implied because at that age you have neither the experience nor the maturity or rational thought to make such an adult decision.

This isn't even a matter of empathy... If you don't get this, you are dumb as a mother ****er. Plain and simple.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:48 PM   #54
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I am shocked by this thread. Taking full responsibility for ones actions comes with adulthood. She was 12 years old!! She gotten taken advantage of by some creepy adult! Of course she didn't understand the full repercussions of her actions, she was 12!

This is a very sad story, and most of the responses are even sadder.
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I am shocked by this thread. Taking full responsibility for ones actions comes with adulthood. She was 12 years old!! She gotten taken advantage of by some creepy adult! Of course she didn't understand the full repercussions of her actions, she was 12!

This is a very sad story, and most of the responses are even sadder.
Seriously, not the responses I was expecting.
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Holy ****...that's why there are laws against sex with minors. Consent is not implied because at that age you have neither the experience nor the maturity or rational thought to make such an adult decision.

This isn't even a matter of empathy... If you don't get this, you are dumb as a mother ****er. Plain and simple.
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How are people forgetting this girl was 12? A 12 year old cannot rationalize the repercussions of doing stupid things like this on the internet. Parents are definitely at fault for allowing their child unsupervised access to the internet and a webcam. Have they just ignored every public service announcement in the past 15 years about children and the internet??

Stories like this really upset me, and seeing ignorance in forums blaming the girl really piss me off...this was a little girl who's molestation brought on years of bullying and eventually her suicide. Those blaming her should feel ashamed.

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Fact is, that if as a parent, you stand up to your kids, and learn to talk to them, and teach them right, things like this are a non-issue. Sure they will mess up from time to time, but not like this.
So, if you are a good, attentive parent nothing bad happens to your kids and the bad decisions they make aren't that bad.

Writing that down. Any other parenting tips?

You're taking one hell of a leap with that analysis.
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parents should have changed names, removed all presence on the web and relocated to start new. the fact that she kept making facebook profiles and **** is just god damn ridiculous.
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I am shocked by this thread. Taking full responsibility for ones actions comes with adulthood. She was 12 years old!! She gotten taken advantage of by some creepy adult! Of course she didn't understand the full repercussions of her actions, she was 12!

This is a very sad story, and most of the responses are even sadder.
Thanks for this.

I can't believe some of the ridiculous responses here.
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