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Old 10-29-2013, 12:30 AM   #21
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I call on your post.
How is this Obama's fault?
You're dealing with private insurance companies. In case you don't like them, Obama is offering an alternative (if and when his website works, but that's a separate story). You can bitch about Obamacare all day. You don't have to use them.
Without Obamacare (like the Republicans want), you're dealing with your private insurance companies. Deal with it.
It would be nice if you knew what your were talking about. Back in the real world, here is what happened.

The Obama administration (I blame the administration, not the person) KNEW that insurance companies would cancel these plans, which will FORCE people to use the Obamacare exchange. Obamacare will only function if people sign up for it. Old timers aren't the issue, and the poor aren't the issue (they already get medicare and medicaid)....they need the middle class and the middle aged (18-45) to sign up, and the only way to make damn SURE that they have a steady flow of people signing up is by making SURE their plans get cancelled. They knew this back in 2010 and it's playing out just like they planned...everything except the actual sign up process. As of right now, more people LOST their insurance than those that GOT insurance through Obamacare.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:32 AM   #22
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Please publish the particular section of the ACA that mandates a higher premium from your insurance company.
If you force an insurance company (which runs on profit, otherwise why provide insurance) to cover everything under the sun, premiums must rise. This isnt a difficult concept to understand. If we force car companies to use v12s and milano leather in all vehicles sold on the north american market, the prices of the cars are going to rise.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:35 AM   #23
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:36 AM   #24
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Said all this knowing it was all a bold face lie...key word to listen for "period."

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Old 10-29-2013, 02:12 AM   #25
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:00 AM   #26
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Corporations fk you, make huge profits, convince you that it's the government's fault.

Capitalism. It isn't for the stupid.
Yep, because this healthcare issue isn't crony capitalism at its finest.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:18 AM   #27
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Documents have been released (IRS form) showing that the IRS knew that people would NOT be able to keep their plans/doctors in 2010. Obama flat out lied to the populace. The people deserve the government they elect. Over 14 million people are set to lose their insurance before the end of the year.

Lies! All lies! I'm calling out your obviously biased source!

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NBC ran a whole story about it and how the Obama administration knew that "millions" would lose coverage...then the story was scrubbed late last night.

Edit: I actually read the article and scree grabs are out there including nbc's tweet of the article

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/20...ose-disappears
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Yep, because this healthcare issue isn't crony capitalism at its finest.
I'm guessing that you have discussed the issue at length with the parties involved.
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Classic "thanks Obama" thread.

Who were you blaming a decade ago?



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It was the goddamned liberals then - just like it is now.
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Here's the new one, not sure what they changed

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...insurance?lite

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None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be "grandfathered," meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don't meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date - the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example - the policy would not be grandfathered.

Sounds like Obamacare is doing the Verizon unlimited data scam with the "grandfathering"
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Why don't you give them a call and ask what they changed?

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Why don't you give them a call and ask what they changed?

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I know you're poor and have nothing better to do, but isn't it a little early for you to be drinking?
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Corporations fk you, make huge profits, convince you that it's the government's fault.

Capitalism. It isn't for the stupid.
says the guy who routinely patronizes corporations.

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I know you're poor and have nothing better to do, but isn't it a little early for you to be drinking?
Any time is a good time to drink the sweet nectar of rightwing desperation.
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says the guy who routinely patronizes corporations.

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And?
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And?
And what? You cry about how corporations are Fvcking everyone and how they're so greedy and maniacal, yet you patronize them.

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SOME corporations are like that, and I don't patronize them.
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