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Old 04-07-2017, 01:16 PM   #1
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what are the best coilovers?

Hay e46 fanatic fam please i have bin contemplating for a long time now and just can't figure out what coilovers to get I'm in to track/drifting so i like the stiff but comfortable ride and this is my first e46 i love the car just need the right suspension for it anybody got any recommended or now good coilovers.

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Old 04-07-2017, 01:24 PM   #2
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which brands have you been looking at?

what's your budget?

what type of springs you want "progressive" or "linear".

328Ci on an island salt air...have you had your rear axle carrier mounts fixed/replaced/inspected????
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:42 PM   #3
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I've had good luck with bc. Height and damping adjustable, plus they come with camber plates.
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Old 04-07-2017, 11:14 PM   #4
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Old 04-07-2017, 11:21 PM   #5
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Hay e46 fanatic fam please i have bin contemplating for a long time now and just can't figure out what coilovers to get I'm in to track/drifting so i like the stiff but comfortable ride and this is my first e46 i love the car just need the right suspension for it anybody got any recommended or now good coilovers.



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I'm currently running megan coilover 32-way adj with camber plates.

Not sure if it's good for drifting but it's comfortable for daily.


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Old 04-08-2017, 07:09 AM   #6
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Hay e46 fanatic fam please i have bin contemplating for a long time now and just can't figure out what coilovers to get I'm in to track/drifting so i like the stiff but comfortable ride and this is my first e46 i love the car just need the right suspension for it anybody got any recommended or now good coilovers.



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I'd say look into brands such as BC Racing, Meagan Racing, or Bilstein if you want the best. My other advice is to not go cheap!


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Old 04-08-2017, 10:17 PM   #7
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thank you to all for the replies ill look in to bc
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:54 PM   #8
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thank you to all for the replies ill look in to bc
Mediocre, save your money for something better.

Best equals Motons or Ohlins and others in this price range.

A very good no BS choice would be the Bilstein PSS10, find your best price and buy these.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:34 AM   #9
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I love how all the coilovers people say are "the best" are never height adjustable, never come with camber plates and always have soft spring rates. Bilstein, kw, h&r, they'll all bend you over for $1800 or more and you end up sagging the springs to adjust the height and using stock strut mounts.
Meanwhile you can pick up a set of bc's for $950 or better yet a set of fortune auto's for around $1200 and get full adjustability, camber plates, and a two year warranty.

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I love how all the coilovers people say are "the best" are never height adjustable, never come with camber plates and always have soft spring rates. Bilstein, kw, h&r, they'll all bend you over for $1800 or more and you end up sagging the springs to adjust the height and using stock strut mounts.
Meanwhile you can pick up a set of bc's for $950 or better yet a set of fortune auto's for around $1200 and get full adjustability, camber plates, and a two year warranty.
Can you post up at least 3 nasa or scca championships for either of these lower brands you mention? The op says he wants them for tracking and drifting, Bilstein, KW, and H&R live up to that winning racing pedigree.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:04 PM   #11
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I love how all the coilovers people say are "the best" are never height adjustable, never come with camber plates and always have soft spring rates. Bilstein, kw, h&r, they'll all bend you over for $1800 or more and you end up sagging the springs to adjust the height and using stock strut mounts.
Meanwhile you can pick up a set of bc's for $950 or better yet a set of fortune auto's for around $1200 and get full adjustability, camber plates, and a two year warranty.
What do you mean "Never height adjustable"?

Now, I don't believe for a second the OP wants the best. They would cost more than the car is worth. Ohlins, Penske, high end Konis (not the schoolboy stuff that is generally discussed her), or even Bilstein race dampers (WAY different from any Bilsteins discussed here) are all among the best. They probably start at about $5k or more (it's been over 10 years since looking into them).

OP is dreaming. As for the BC's... I don't know much about them, but they very much strike me as a cheap street CO set.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:49 PM   #12
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Op wants a comfortable ride (obviously a street car) with the ability to do track and drift driving. I highly doubt he's doing any kind of racing in his 2000 328i that's going to warrant any of those extremely high end, high priced options you listed.
In my opinion, based off of experience with plenty of different brands on different cars, the best coilovers for a street car that sees track duty is whatever gives you all the features you need to set the car up the way you want it. If you only want to lower the car 1" and want to reuse your old strut mounts or fork out another $200 for new ones, then sure get bilstein, kw, etc. But there's no way I'm putting those on my car. I had bc on my last car and they rode fantastic and the car was extremely nimble on the track. Same goes for the stance gr+ on my buddy's car. Very capable on the street and track.
I would put money on the coilovers i recommended keeping up with or beating your $2000 set on a track.
Bc is my go-to when it comes to street/track cars.
Op i promise you will not be disappointed with the way these brands ride and they'll perform perfectly for what you're going to use them for. Look into Fortune auto and Stance as well, they're slightly higher priced but great value for the money.
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Op wants a comfortable ride (obviously a street car) with the ability to do track and drift driving. I highly doubt he's doing any kind of racing in his 2000 328i that's going to warrant any of those extremely high end, high priced options you listed.
In my opinion, based off of experience with plenty of different brands on different cars, the best coilovers for a street car that sees track duty is whatever gives you all the features you need to set the car up the way you want it. If you only want to lower the car 1" and want to reuse your old strut mounts or fork out another $200 for new ones, then sure get bilstein, kw, etc. But there's no way I'm putting those on my car. I had bc on my last car and they rode fantastic and the car was extremely nimble on the track. Same goes for the stance gr+ on my buddy's car. Very capable on the street and track.
I would put money on the coilovers i recommended keeping up with or beating your $2000 set on a track.
Bc is my go-to when it comes to street/track cars.
Op i promise you will not be disappointed with the way these brands ride and they'll perform perfectly for what you're going to use them for. Look into Fortune auto and Stance as well, they're slightly higher priced but great value for the money.

laughing at bc coilovers being a good tracking setup, i will never forget this bc quote;


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Old 04-10-2017, 08:53 AM   #15
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I've had BC Coilovers on my daily driven 325i for almost a year now.
They ride okay, and seem to be holding up fairly well both cosmetically & functionally.

Spring rates are a bit too stiff if I'm honest, but the box does indicate the setup is for an E46 M3.
That's what FCPEuro had in stock for my model, so that was my only option, as this was part of a warranty exchange.

I wouldn't consider these a high-end coilover set, but they do the job fine (fingers crossed for longevity).
If I was looking into building a car for the track, they wouldn't be my first choice though.



I will add that the BC Coilovers I'm currently running replaced a set (actually 2 sets) of ST V1s.
The STs are essentially KW V1s, with a galvanized body instead of stainless steel.

The STs were much more comfortable for a daily driver, but their longevity was GARBAGE.
I went through 2 sets within roughly 2 years:

- The front struts both failed, one at a time,
- 1 of the rear shocks eventually leaked, but both lost their rebound / dampening ability.
- The end links ended up failing, the strut bodies rusted to absolute shit after only 1 winter (BC is mint by comparison)
- Lowering range was nowhere near what was advertised (not a real issue unless you plan on "slamming" your vehicle)

HUGE THANKS to FCPEuro for working with me through the years to resolve my problems, and eventually replacing the entire ST kit.
I will never buy a KW / ST product again.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:48 AM   #17
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I've had BC Coilovers on my daily driven 325i for almost a year now.
They ride okay, and seem to be holding up fairly well both cosmetically & functionally.

Spring rates are a bit too stiff if I'm honest, but the box does indicate the setup is for an E46 M3.
That's what FCPEuro had in stock for my model, so that was my only option, as this was part of a warranty exchange.

I wouldn't consider these a high-end coilover set, but they do the job fine (fingers crossed for longevity).
If I was looking into building a car for the track, they wouldn't be my first choice though.



I will add that the BC Coilovers I'm currently running replaced a set (actually 2 sets) of ST V1s.
The STs are essentially KW V1s, with a galvanized body instead of stainless steel.

The STs were much more comfortable for a daily driver, but their longevity was GARBAGE.
I went through 2 sets within roughly 2 years:

- The front struts both failed, one at a time,
- 1 of the rear shocks eventually leaked, but both lost their rebound / dampening ability.
- The end links ended up failing, the strut bodies rusted to absolute shit after only 1 winter (BC is mint by comparison)
- Lowering range was nowhere near what was advertised (not a real issue unless you plan on "slamming" your vehicle)

HUGE THANKS to FCPEuro for working with me through the years to resolve my problems, and eventually replacing the entire ST kit.
I will never buy a KW / ST product again.
Sounds like a bad set slipped by quality control, I've had the ST XTA coilovers on my ZHP for over a year and put close to 20k miles on them and everything is performing well and aren't showing any signs of major wear.

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Sounds like a bad set slipped by quality control, I've had the ST XTA coilovers on my ZHP for over a year and put close to 20k miles on them and everything is performing well and aren't showing any signs of major wear.

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It was actually 2 bad sets, from entirely different production runs.


XTA is a slightly different (newer) iteration of the V1, with the addition of camber plates. I don't know if ST/KW changed anything else, be it valving, seals, coating etc. with this set.

That said, I can almost guarantee if you replaced your two rear shocks today, your car would feel different. Mine softened up gradually.

Good luck, especially if you live where they salt the roads!
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I'll add also, the rear coil spring binding issue on the ST V1s is disappointing as well.

At parking lot speeds, or when torsion is applied to the chassis (pulling into driveways, going over humps while turning) the rear would always produce noise. The paint also flaked off in the areas where the springs binded, and ofcourse they rusted.

Example, with pics: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=375086


Notice how the OEM springs are designed completely different? (less coils) That's done on purpose.

My BC coilovers aren't stellar in that degree either, but at least the manufacturer decided to add some rather thick rubber insulators around where the coils can bind.
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