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Old 11-11-2012, 07:53 AM   #61
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The greedy pricks at the insurance companies are raising their premiums.

Obama isn't making that profit.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:54 AM   #62
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Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you want the privilege of driving then you have to pay the associated costs. There is no law that says you have to employ a person.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:56 AM   #63
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The GOP behaving like children in the house is the reason we don't have better jobs numbers and you know it. Quit the drama.
That's BS and you know it. It's the tax and spend policies, and unlimited social welfare programs of the democrats that are killing this country with a culture of dependency instead of self reliance.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:57 AM   #64
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There were plenty of companies that offered their employees medical insurance at an affordable cost. The raise in premiums that are being cause by the mandates in Obamacare are causing the layoffs, not the greedy CEOs.
Really? For the last 10 years at my job the insurance options kept going up in price while shrinking in value. I thank the fates that I am a healthy individual.

Have you seen the family rates for health insurance? Insane!
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:58 AM   #65
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That's BS and you know it. It's the tax and spend policies, and unlimited social welfare programs of the democrats that are killing this country with a culture of dependency instead of self reliance.
I know quite the opposite to be true. And so do you. If you don't then your GOP blinders are working perfectly.

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #66
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Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you want the privilege of driving then you have to pay the associated costs. There is no law that says you have to employ a person.
Owning a business is a privilege. Not a right. If you cant afford to hire people, do the work yourself.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:00 AM   #67
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Owning a business is a privilege. Not a right. If you cant afford to hire people, do the work yourself.
Sorry, it is a right because we have the right to own personal property.
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Sorry, it is a right because we have the right to own personal property.
Show me where, in the constitution, it says you have the right to own a company. You don't have the right to own a company simply because you're an American. You have the right to start a business and, if you have a solid business model and a bit of luck, it can become a company. BIG difference.
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Sorry, it is a right because we have the right to own personal property.
If you want the privilege of owning a business then you have to pay the associated costs. There is no law that says you are entitled to owning a business. Just like a person isn't entitled to own a house.
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330ipilot, you've got some serious Republican colored glasses on if you think the supposed tax & spend policies are limited to Democrats. Each party has their own version of social welfare and they both cost money.



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I've always been curious as to what has changed between now and the mid-90's when the Republicans proposed legislation that the current health care reform is based off of. They must have thought it was a good idea then, now it's the tipping out towards the decline of the states.
I'm still wondering about this, by the way, if anyone has a response.
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You know, and I'm just thinking out loud here, but I wonder what America would think, especially conservatives, if it was Republicans that came up with Obama Care (call it GOP care something).

I wonder if conservatives would be defending it.

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You know, and I'm just thinking out loud here, but I wonder what America would think, especially conservatives, if it was Republicans that came up with Obama Care (call it GOP care something).

I wonder if conservatives would be defending it.
They did.....in the mid 90's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/op...anted=all&_r=0

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Republicans - the KINGS of hypocrisy.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:05 AM   #74
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He shouldn't be criticized for that. He should be criticized for being an assh0le. He COULD have said "Due to new legislation, the price of our pizza will have to increase a very small bit, but look on the bright side: a bunch of our people will have health insurance!"
I agree. He could have made a simple statement and moved on, not draw attention to himself by attempting to hate on a policy which he can do nothing about. The guy is only hurting himself.


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There were plenty of companies that offered their employees medical insurance at an affordable cost. The raise in premiums that are being cause by the mandates in Obamacare are causing the layoffs, not the greedy CEOs.
The reality is healthcare costs have been rising every year for years, regardless of a Republican or Democratic administration. The question now with Obamacare is, will costs plateau or continue to rise?
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Do you own a car? Do you have to insure that car? Do you like to share the road with uninsured drivers? Why not? Do you know what your insurance would cost if only half of the cars on the road were insured? Owning a car comes with the burden of maintaining the vehicle and keeping it insured in the event something happens to devalue your investment. Right? In fact, most states require you insure your car or you are not allowed to operate it on public roads.

Owning a business is like owning a car in the fact that you have to keep a certain level of maintenance and insurance to keep all the working parts (employees) working properly and providing a reliable financial vehicle.
Poor example. With a car, you are a threat to others. You are not a threat to others without health insurance.
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Poor example. With a car, you are a threat to others. You are not a threat to others without health insurance.
You most certainly are. You are a threat to others health bills if you don't have health insurance. People that pay end up paying for those that don't or cant. Hell, the reason your insurance and the insurance you provide for your employees is so high is because of the 15.7% of uninsured people racking up health related bills.
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ITT a lot of people don't know sh!t about owning a business. i will agree that he should say something to the tune of what 'busa said.
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Poor example. With a car, you are a threat to others. You are not a threat to others without health insurance.
Awesome.

I'm going to acquire tuberculosis and come to your house & cough on you.
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Awesome.

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