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Old 07-21-2014, 01:22 AM   #1
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Advice on cleaning kits for 38 special for girlfriend.

Looking at a few different kits for my girlfriends 38 special and wanted some advice from those more experienced as to which is the better bang for buck beginners kit.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p....38.3579mm+Cla

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...n+Cleaning+Kit

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...+for+.383579mm

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...r+Cleaning+Kit

Side note, also looking for some decently priced home defense and range ammo for her to get out there and practice more. She has some Blazer 158 grain that she picked up when she first bought the gun and most recently bought a second box of American Eagle FMJ 130 grain.

Any suggestions and links are welcomed
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:19 AM   #2
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I would recommend this:

Amazon $21 - http://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-34002-B...rds=hoppes+.38



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The first one you listed is fine. Just buy some rags also.
BTW, you can get this at walmart.
$15 out the door for everything you could need/want.

As far as range ammo: anything in .38 from a regular factory will be fine. Stay away from reloads.

As far as self defense: I would do Critical Duty or PDX
(+P is more powerful and has more kick - make sure your gun is rated for it if you want to use it.)





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Define rated? Her specific revolver is a 50's model 38 special s&w. Thanks for the info, any deals on ammo going right now you're aware of?
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Define rated? Her specific revolver is a 50's model 38 special s&w. Thanks for the info, any deals on ammo going right now you're aware of?
I would stick with NON +P rated ammo. It is easier to shoot and less stress on the gun.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/948...ding-box-of-25

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/128...cket-box-of-50
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Hornady doesn't make Critical Duty for the .38spl. Only Critical Defense FTX.
Critical Duty is made for full size duty handguns, not OD/CCW guns with short barrels. Critical Duty has to reach a specific minimum velocity prior to hitting the target in order to have reliable expansion, and out of most sub-compact pistols, it won't reach that velocity. At that point, expansion is POSSIBLE, but not assured. Nobody uses full size .38spl revolvers for duty pistols anymore, so there's no point for Hornady to make duty loads. It's use is generally only for target shooting and small BUG/CCW use, so they have to use different loads.
The thing that Hornady doesn't advertise -which they totally should but they don't- is that Critical Duty and Critical Defense have entirely different designs and purposes. For shorter barrels, Critical Defense is designed to perform more reliably. Unfortunately, Hornady does all of their testing with 4" barrels, so the performance you get from say.. a S&W Shield, Ruger LCP or S&W 638 is going to differ from factory tests. Critical Defense already does not meet FBI penetration standards, so less velocity is going to make that more of a problem.

For .38spl, if I were to use one, I'd likely be using something loaded with the Barnes TAC-XP 110gr copper JHP (i.e. CorBon DPX +P 110gr), or else Speer LE Gold Dot Short Barrel 135gr.
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^ as always, Reedo learns us.

I had to go look...yep.

I have Critical Duty for my 9mms and PDX for my .38.
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PDX is some excellent stuff. It baffles me why Winchester keeps naming and renaming all of their defense loads. PDX is now "Defender". Oh well, their bullets work.
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