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Old 10-19-2013, 01:16 PM   #1081
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I'm researching on a 300 blk out upper. Just need to decide on a 8.2, 8.5, or 9. Heard the powder fully burns at 9". What rail did you go with it, and how does it feel? Just wondering if it's cramped and how much of an extension you can get on it.
I've heard that powder burn rumor myself, but since I haven't shot this yet, I can't confirm either way. The upper is factory Noveske and the rail supplied by them is a monolithic one made by VLTOR.

It feels alot like an mp5 when shouldered. I wouldn't call the rail "cramped", but I would say that it is a little tough for me to get a decent extension on. It makes me feel cramped, but if I'm honest, so does my 10.5. It's just something I'm getting used to.

If you want, I can meet up with you this weekend and just bring it along so you can see it, shoulder it, etc.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:17 PM   #1082
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I've heard that powder burn rumor myself, but since I haven't shot this yet, I can't confirm either way. The upper is factory Noveske and the rail supplied by them is a monolithic one made by VLTOR.

It feels alot like an mp5 when shouldered. I wouldn't call the rail "cramped", but I would say that it is a little tough for me to get a decent extension on. It makes me feel cramped, but if I'm honest, so does my 10.5. It's just something I'm getting used to.

If you want, I can meet up with you this weekend and just bring it along so you can see it, shoulder it, etc.
Would be great to try it out before I decide. I'm working the next few weekends, but if possible, I should be off most weekends in November.

I'm going to start saving 556/223 brass and start reloading 300 BLK OUT. Seems that's the route most people are taking.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:02 PM   #1083
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Would be great to try it out before I decide. I'm working the next few weekends, but if possible, I should be off most weekends in November.

I'm going to start saving 556/223 brass and start reloading 300 BLK OUT. Seems that's the route most people are taking.
Cool, just give me a shout. I should be around for most of the weekends.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:22 PM   #1084
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After doing some hiking and other outdoor activities over the last week, I realized that I needed a new knife. I don't have anything between my Kershaw Blur folder and the giant Gerber LMF 2. I decided on the Esee 4.



I also decided to pick up a new firesteel. I bought mine at a gun show a couple years ago, and the handles on both the striker and steel just suck. I bought the Gobspark!



Last month I decided (with urging from my wife) to buy the last suppressor that I really wanted, a 9mm. The Form 3 was just approved and it's now on the way to my dealer, so I guess I now consider it mine. I decided on the SWR Octane 9 HD 2.


And of course, I needed something to install it on, so I picked up a Storm Lake Glock 19 threaded barrel.

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Old 10-24-2013, 08:09 PM   #1085
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Bought a Remington 511 today, one of the last that I needed for my basic 500 series collection. lots of sub model's that I need but it rounds out most of the basics minus the later models that will come later as I find deals.

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:13 PM   #1086
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Anybody have a line on a M1A SOCOM or Scout? I've gotten the itch for another rifle, and it's the only thing really on my list right now.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:42 AM   #1087
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:58 PM   #1088
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:29 PM   #1089
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Fireclean intrigues me. Damn it's expensive, though
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:55 PM   #1090
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No doubt. I got a free sample. I treated my Glock before a class last weekend, and after 500ish rounds (obviously not a high volume) there was almost no build up. What was there really did wipe right off with a paper towel. I treated my 10.5" SBR before testing a rebuilt gas block (again, low round count) and it wiped right out.

I cleaned and degreased three ARs to compare Fireclean, Slip2000 EWL, and Froglube head to head.

The Slip2000 EWL feels the smoothest while racking the charging handle, followed by Fireclean, and then Froglube.
I think the Froglube did the best job of cleaning, followed by Fireclean.
The Fireclean is much easier to apply than Froglube, since you don't need to heat the parts.
The Froglube was a real pain in the ass to remove. It was a gummy mess. I ended up using non-chlorinated brake cleaner and Slip 725 degreaser.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:19 AM   #1091
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I have used the straight liquid Froglube only, and it works just fine without heat. Obviously, once the gun heats up it soaks some in, but even if not, it lubes just fine.

For cleaning, Froglube worked the best out of all lubes I've tried. (other two being Militec and BreakFree CLP)
When left on for a while for squad car carry/storage, Froglube actually felt the smoothest in an AR action.
Slip EWL was the easier of the two to clean off if you wanted all the lube off the gun, but it was easier to remove fouling with Froglube already applied.
Slip2000 725 and CarbonKiller did a much better job cleaning than Froglube, though. Froglube solvent is supposed to be decent, but I doubt it's anything too much different from Slip's 725.
Froglube gets noticeably thicker in really cold weather. EWL is a better choice for arctic or higher-latitude winter environments.

Slip2000 CarbonKiller is the greatest thing ever. Mix it with a CAT-M4 tool and a couple other AR tools/brushes and you can clean an AR in a jif. I just got done doing annual department rifle inspections and it went like a breeze.


Funny story- One of our higher-ups is not happy about our switch to all Slip2000 products. I had two reasons for switching:
1. We had a half dozen chemicals and nobody knew what did what, so people were lubricating with Hoppes #9 and cleaning with Militec. Slip2000 system is simple. 3 products is much easier to negotiate.
2. All the stuff we HAD was toxic. Slip2000 is non-toxic.
The "higher-up" wants us to bring back a bottle of Militec lube because he thinks it's better. When asked why, he said "because I just think it is". I asked about their testing compared to what Slip had done, and "I still think Militec is better." When asked about toxicity, he was silent.

Militec ain't bad stuff. It's basically super-thin synthetic motor oil. Probably something similar to 5w10 or 5w20. It's not as good as Slip in super-cold weather, but it still works okay. I just feel that Slip EWL, Froglube and FireClean are more advanced.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:25 AM   #1092
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I used fireclean on my 1911 (Colt Combat Elite, bare steel reciever) this weekend, at the urging of a buddy of mine. It had a bit of surface rust starting on the front strap (textured) and underneath the handguards. Scrubbed it all down with the fireclean, let it sit for a while while we went out back to smoke a couple cigars, came back in for serious cleaning. It worked really well, took everything off, left it rust free.

I'll probably invest in a bit of it, at very least for the 1911.
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I'm tempted to get another "fighting carbine" AR and then run a side-by-side-by-side test over the next year of EWL, Froglube and Fireclean.
My filthy as hell 11.5" is @ 9k rounds down the pipe since last cleaned, so I'm going to cave and clean it this winter and hit it with some rattle can paint.
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Nice. Take pictures when you open it up.

What does "last cleaning" mean for you? I've had armorers turn me away for not running three feet of pipe cleaner down the gas tube.


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I think I'm back on a gun kick again. I'm asking Santa for a gun trust this year.


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Old 12-02-2013, 04:49 PM   #1096
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Finally sent out my form 1 and two form 4s. I hope they don't get kicked back due to a discrepancy and they will grandfather it before the changes taking place next week.
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I have used the straight liquid Froglube only, and it works just fine without heat. Obviously, once the gun heats up it soaks some in, but even if not, it lubes just fine.

For cleaning, Froglube worked the best out of all lubes I've tried. (other two being Militec and BreakFree CLP)
When left on for a while for squad car carry/storage, Froglube actually felt the smoothest in an AR action.
Slip EWL was the easier of the two to clean off if you wanted all the lube off the gun, but it was easier to remove fouling with Froglube already applied.
Slip2000 725 and CarbonKiller did a much better job cleaning than Froglube, though. Froglube solvent is supposed to be decent, but I doubt it's anything too much different from Slip's 725.
Froglube gets noticeably thicker in really cold weather. EWL is a better choice for arctic or higher-latitude winter environments.

Slip2000 CarbonKiller is the greatest thing ever. Mix it with a CAT-M4 tool and a couple other AR tools/brushes and you can clean an AR in a jif. I just got done doing annual department rifle inspections and it went like a breeze.


Funny story- One of our higher-ups is not happy about our switch to all Slip2000 products. I had two reasons for switching:
1. We had a half dozen chemicals and nobody knew what did what, so people were lubricating with Hoppes #9 and cleaning with Militec. Slip2000 system is simple. 3 products is much easier to negotiate.
2. All the stuff we HAD was toxic. Slip2000 is non-toxic.
The "higher-up" wants us to bring back a bottle of Militec lube because he thinks it's better. When asked why, he said "because I just think it is". I asked about their testing compared to what Slip had done, and "I still think Militec is better." When asked about toxicity, he was silent.

Militec ain't bad stuff. It's basically super-thin synthetic motor oil. Probably something similar to 5w10 or 5w20. It's not as good as Slip in super-cold weather, but it still works okay. I just feel that Slip EWL, Froglube and FireClean are more advanced.
Heard cases of people using carbonkiller resulting in ruining the finish of their firearm. I suppose you haven't ran into this? That's why I went with M-Pro 7.
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Nice. Take pictures when you open it up.

What does "last cleaning" mean for you? I've had armorers turn me away for not running three feet of pipe cleaner down the gas tube.

Touched it with any kind of cleaning chemical or tool.
I only cleaned the muzzle when I changed muzzle devices at about 5k rounds. Oh, and ran a boresnake down the bore when I did that.

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Heard cases of people using carbonkiller resulting in ruining the finish of their firearm. I suppose you haven't ran into this? That's why I went with M-Pro 7.
I suppose it could happen, but it also depends on what kind of finish they have and how long they're leaving it in the Carbon Killer. It's citrus-based with some other junk in it, so it's likely acidic. I've never seen it, but then and again, the only things I soak in it are nitrided, phosphated or chromed components which won't be damaged. If I had my dad's old blued S&W K-frame .38, I wouldn't be soaking it very long. Nor would I soak my hydro-dipped Benelli SBE.
I've gotten Carbon Killer on other finishes like the Benelli (Realtree pattern), and a couple other finishes for short periods of time and have not seen anything.
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Touched it with any kind of cleaning chemical or tool.
I only cleaned the muzzle when I changed muzzle devices at about 5k rounds. Oh, and ran a boresnake down the bore when I did that.
I've got a few friends that would cry at hearing that. Or call you mean names. Most times I just run a bore snake down the barrel and call it a day on the AR, and have suffered countless amounts of "you're going to ruin that rifle" lectures. I usually just tell them they can clean it if they're that worried about it.



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