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Old 11-26-2012, 07:50 AM   #1
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Do angel eyes cause fires?

I saw a pic of a burning e46 and someone said it was probably because of bad angel eyes. Do they cause fires?
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:52 AM   #2
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I HIGHLY doubt that, angel eyes are LEDS (well most are) they don't put out alot of energy which in turn is heat which creates fire plus they come with fuses to prevent that
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:53 AM   #3
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I HIGHLY doubt that, angel eyes are LEDS (well most are) they don't put out alot of energy which in turn is heat which creates fire plus they come with fuses to prevent that
Which are the good angel eyes because people mentioned cheap ones causing that.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:55 AM   #4
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Combine cheap Chinese ballasts with improper installation and you have a recipe for fire.

So, yes they do cause fires, that burnt E46 was from angel eye fire
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The older ccfl types were known to cause fires from loose electrical connections between the ballasts and AE's. As for the LED AE's, no.
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The older ccfl types were known to cause fires from loose electrical connections between the ballasts and AE's. As for the LED AE's, no.
So which ones are bad and which ones are safe and why?
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:03 AM   #7
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I can't comment on which ones are safe, but I know the fires are started by a short circuit. If you want to be safe, just add some low amperage fuses to the ballast circuit and the LED circuits. If it shorts, it'll blow the fuse and not light your car on fire.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:07 AM   #8
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The best angel eyes are no angel eyes.

The difference between CCFL and LED has literally been beaten to death on this forum. The difference in the different brands has been beaten to death.

If you had searched the lighting forum, which is where you should have posted this, you would have the answers to your questions.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:09 AM   #9
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My understanding is some of the CCFL Angel Eyes were prone to fires. Not sure if this was due to poor/sloppy installation or a component failure.

What you need to understand is everything needs to be protected by a fuse. No fuse = potential fire/severe damage.

Keep in mind you are only protected from the location of the fuse. So for example if you have some sort of kit that has a long lead wire that then has a fuse, the wire between the power connection and the fuse is likely unsafe assuming it is connected to a unprotected battery feed.

So it is best to pull power off an already fused source and/or have the fuse directly connected to the battery feed point. Any wire that is connected after the fuse is likely to not be a fire hazard as long as the fuse size is correct.

Remember the fuse is to protect the wiring, not the device at the end of the wiring. This is a key point many people do not understand.

Also a properly sized fuse is 25% over the max current draw of the end device or what current the wire size can safely support.
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I'm pretty sure the fires were caused by the wiring connector on the ae's. There was only a small piece of plastic seperating the wires, that would melt causing the wires to arc. The connectors that came on my depo ae's looked like they would do this, so I cut off the connector and wired directly.
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I'm not good with wiring and all of that though that's my concern. Is there any type that isn't prone to having that problem? I would install my self and wouldn't want to miss something.
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Buy led angel eyes, you will not have any fire issues and they are very easy to install. Also, CCFL are not very common anymore since the LEDs have improved so much. Look into Orion V4 etc. There are tons of things posted in the angel eyes section.
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Skip the angel eyes. They were cool a while ago, but anymore they're just everywhere. Hell, I can get them for my mustang.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:01 AM   #14
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Skip the angel eyes. They were cool a while ago, but anymore they're just everywhere. Hell, I can get them for my mustang.
Highly disagree with that. They are still nice on bimmers for which they come stock and have become an icon, but if you put them on your VW, mustang, or anything else, then you win the prize for being a total jack*** without a clue
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I agree, they look best on bmw's. I have also heard the led's are not prone to fire.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:29 PM   #17
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I had my ballast smoke and die - they are all Chinese made by the lowest bidder. Not only is that a risk to the car but you need to replace the ballast to get working angel eyes again.
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