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Old 03-08-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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Nurburgring coming to the US?

http://m.jalopnik.com/5891398/man-wa...ring-in-nevada
NURBURGRING

Man Wants To Build Exact Copy Of Nürburgring... In Nevada

By Jason Torchinsky,*Mar 8, 2012
Since the greater Las Vegas area only has a copy of Paris, New York, Venice, and alien-occupied ancient Egypt, it's still a good ways away from having a copy of all of Earth's good stuff. Luckily, Bruton Smith, CEO of*Speedway Motorsports, is working to fix that, starting with a copy of the*Nürburgring.In*this interview*on Sirius Sports, Smith reveals that he's been talking to "some Germans" about the possibility of creating an exact duplicate of the Nürburgring in Nevada, likely 10 or so miles away from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Smith is very confident he can produce an exact replica, and has been talking to both the Governor and the Nevada Bureau of Land Management, who he's hoping will donate 8,000 acres of land for the project. And why wouldn't they? Nevada has plenty of open dirt without any Nürburgrings at all— this could take care of that situation.The Nevada 'Ring wouldn't be used for racing, just test track use, though individuals as well as manufacturers could use it.So what you're saying is that I could be a four hour drive from the Nürburgring, and then moments from $4.99 lobster and the loosest slots in town? Yes, please.

Would be a sweet thing if this goes through..
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Hoping this happens. I'll make yearly road trips out west for this

I wonder if he wants to re create the GP circuit or the entier 13 miles circuit? **Hoping for the latter***
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Even if its 'identical' it still wont be. The climate is different and so would the track surface. It'd almost be smarter to build a mirrored copy...cut down on the US vs German ring comparisons....
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I wonder how drastic the elevation changes are. Isn't there one stretch that drops by quite a distance? It's kind of hard to remember only having driving it on Grand Turismo. Isn't NV pretty flat? I think that would be more difficult to account for then the climate.

Hell, Pittsburgh has a very similar landscape and climate to Germany, we'd love to have them! I'll bring the shovels....
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^what this guy said.

How are they gonna mimmick the elevation changes? The whole glory of the 'ring is its natural envoironment
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^^ are you guys joking? They're building islands in the sea in Dubai, and you don't think we can put piles of dirt in specific areas, on land??

There's tons of dirt to dig into, or pile up as required. Any elevation change can easily be replicated.
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IIRC, the ring has something like 1200 feet of elevation change. I don't doubt that we could do it, but at what cost?
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Building islands on water is much less difficult than making a mountain with specific elevation changes in the middle of the desert. People have been been creating land on water for a long time now. What do you think Manhattan is?

And besides, the construction boom (bubble really) in Dubai is because Arabs yearn to show off. You think they had net operating income and internal rate of return calculations on those islands before they built them? More like "**** it, it makes us look so awesome and we got tons of money anyways". Those islands are gonna be a huge facepalm 20 years down the road. So what I'm saying is even if they could do something like that in Nevada, it would be extremely costly. And at the end of the day, even if this guy and his company are huge motorsport enthusiasts, they're there to turn a profit.
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I will move to Las Vegas if this is the case
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I wonder how drastic the elevation changes are. Isn't there one stretch that drops by quite a distance? It's kind of hard to remember only having driving it on Grand Turismo. Isn't NV pretty flat? I think that would be more difficult to account for then the climate.

Hell, Pittsburgh has a very similar landscape and climate to Germany, we'd love to have them! I'll bring the shovels....
LOL @ Nevada is flat. You're thinking of Kansas.

Central Vegas is very flat, but the entire city is surrounded by mountains. The Strip is about 2,000 ft, LVMS is a little above 2,100 ft, Pahrump is 2,700 ft, Mt Charleston (about 30 miles away from the city) is almost 12,000 ft.

So yeah, there's plenty of elevation change no matter which direction you go from the center of the city. Every freeway into Vegas goes through a mountain pass.

Elevation changes that exactly mimic the Ring? Maybe not. But there's no shortage of undulating land, bed rock, foothills, ridges, etc.
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instead, they should just make some other 12+ mile long race course with many turns and elevation changes. That new new
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LOL @ Nevada is flat. You're thinking of Kansas.

Central Vegas is very flat, but the entire city is surrounded by mountains. The Strip is about 2,000 ft, LVMS is a little above 2,100 ft, Pahrump is 2,700 ft, Mt Charleston (about 30 miles away from the city) is almost 12,000 ft.

So yeah, there's plenty of elevation change no matter which direction you go from the center of the city. Every freeway into Vegas goes through a mountain pass.

Elevation changes that exactly mimic the Ring? Maybe not. But there's no shortage of undulating land, bed rock, foothills, ridges, etc.
LOL @ Kansas is flat. You're thinking of Iowa. But technically speaking, Florida is the most flat state.
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as much as I would love to see this built, if for nothing else than just to see it done, I agree with the above poster, the Green Hell is a classic, because of so many things, why built a replica, why not build a new long circuit in the spirit of the ring. That would get just as much attention without the risk of comparisons to the original.

its like someone saying they want to build a copy of St. Andrews Golf course in Nevada, could they do it, technically sure, but why bother...just build something new
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I highly doubt they'll clone the elevation changes, but more or so the basic shape. Either way, this should happen, and he'll make a lot of money.
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LOL @ Kansas is flat. You're thinking of Iowa. But technically speaking, Florida is the most flat state.
Full disclosure, the only data I'm going on are: having driven through Kansas, common perception (and we know how accurate that can be), and the first link that comes up on a google search of "how flat is Kansas".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...ghereducation2

This year, for instance, three geographers compared the flatness of Kansas to the flatness of a pancake. They used topographic data from a digital scale model prepared by the US Geological Survey, and they purchased a pancake from the International House of Pancakes. If perfect flatness were a value of 1.00, they reported, the calculated flatness of a pancake would be 0.957 "which is pretty flat, but far from perfectly flat". Kansas's flatness however turned out to be 0.997, which they said might be described, mathematically, as "damn flat".

However, since like half of Florida seems to be underwater or about to be underwater, I cannot argue with your claim that it's the flatest state.

It has Sebring already, though, so that point is probably moot.

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Full disclosure, the only data I'm going on are: having driven through Kansas, common perception (and we know how accurate that can be), and the first link that comes up on a google search of "how flat is Kansas".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...ghereducation2

This year, for instance, three geographers compared the flatness of Kansas to the flatness of a pancake. They used topographic data from a digital scale model prepared by the US Geological Survey, and they purchased a pancake from the International House of Pancakes. If perfect flatness were a value of 1.00, they reported, the calculated flatness of a pancake would be 0.957 "which is pretty flat, but far from perfectly flat". Kansas's flatness however turned out to be 0.997, which they said might be described, mathematically, as "damn flat".

However, since like half of Florida seems to be underwater or about to be underwater, I cannot argue with your claim that it's the flatest state.

It has Sebring already, though, so that point is probably moot.

So we don't have mountains... so what. Having lived in Kansas all my life, there are plenty of hills that you don't want to be pushing your car up in the snow, for example.

We do have Heartland Park, in Topeka. Where I will be spending alot of time this summer.



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So we don't have mountains... so what. Having lived in Kansas all my life, there are plenty of hills that you don't want to be pushing your car up in the snow, for example.
Get any more butthurt....
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