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Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

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Old 11-19-2012, 02:54 PM   #21
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I had the BB gun to that lol so much fun and looks the exact same
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:52 PM   #22
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How many of you guys buy your ammo from Walmart? Yeah, it's the cheapest stuff around, but that's exactly what it is - cheap. Would you guys put cheap gasoline in your M3? I never will. Same thing goes with ammo. You'll find the brand you like the best, so I'm not going to ramble on about which brands are better. But do remember: you get what you pay for. (And yes, you can get nicer rounds at Walmart. Just don't get the cheapest stuff)
I hear this argument the most. That's like saying you're going to put race gas into your E46 for a roadtrip.

I'm ok spending extra on premium JHP, but on range blasting ammo? Gimme the cheap stuff. I dislike Tula b/c its dirty, but the cheap brass stuff? I'll shoot it out of my glock all day.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:29 PM   #23
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Well yeah, I wouldn't put racing gas in my car to drive around town either, but I wouldn't put cheap gas in my car for driving around town either. I don't like crappy ammo in my gun. I don't like when ammo jams, and ammo seems to jam and misfire more often with cheap ammo.
But you're absolutely correct, don't get the most expensive ammo just for plinking at the range.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:30 PM   #24
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But to the OP, you'll get a good life out of your gun even if you put cheap ammo through it as long as you always immediately clean it afterwards.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:31 PM   #25
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But to the OP, you'll get a good life out of your gun even if you put cheap ammo through it as long as you always immediately clean it afterwards.
thats the plan, the manual straight up says to clean it after every use so that is what i'll do.

What do the rest of you guys do for book keeping about usage?

For my shotgun i have a small soft cover moleskin notebook with date/shells/trap score columns.

I was thinking for the usp i would do: date, (ammo) brand, rounds, comments (for FTE/FTF remarks).

anything i should add?
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:35 PM   #26
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What do the rest of you guys do for book keeping about usage?
I don't. I go to the range and shoot, or I go to a class and shoot. Then I go home and I may or may not clean my guns. Then I smile and have a coke.

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Old 11-21-2012, 04:56 PM   #27
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Practice ammo for pistol is relatively consistent across the board for pistol loads. I hear very few reports of bad commercially-sold brass case ammunition. The caveat is that it depends on the gun, as certain guns can be picky with ammunition (match grade 1911s, for example). I hear more problems with people buying bulk reloaded/remanufactured ammo from gun shows where the "manufacturer" is not a reliable source (and generally not insured or using the proper equipment).
Using the Tula/Wolfshit/etc comm-bloc ammo is sort of a mixed bag. For the most part its okay, but you encounter different conditions to deal with like excess wear on gun parts and lower power ammunition.

Winchester USA (white box) is pretty dirty stuff and I avoid it, as I also avoid Remington UMC, S&B, Herters, UltraMax and PPU brass. However, I wouldn't hesitate to use them if they were the only thing available.
I do prefer to use Federal American Eagle, Speer Lawman or Magtech, but personal experience has taught me that pistol ammo is more reliable and less finicky than rifle ammo.
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What do the rest of you guys do for book keeping about usage?
I don't for most of my guns. I only record round count for my precision rifles, and for that I have Storm Tactical sniper log books.
With carbines and pistols, it's not really all that necessary. You can if you want to, but if you just keep mind a ballpark figure, it's just as good. The only reason to have a general understanding of round count for duty/defense grade weapons is for maintenance purposes.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:14 AM   #28
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I learned a ton from Magpul's videos/DVDs. Maybe try that out?
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When I was new to shooting, I had the same question about training. I came to the decision that I'd rather err on the side of caution. I took the basic handgun safety course at the Sig Academy in New Hampshire. I'm glad I did, even if you think you know what you need to, you'll probably be reminded of something you forgot.
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Online ive seen Tula being the cheapest, but steel casing seems to have a bad reputation. Who would want to use steel, certain pistols its okay?

I've used steel casing ammo with out any issues in my Sig P229 and my Springfield 1911.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:04 PM   #31
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I don't for most of my guns. I only record round count for my precision rifles, and for that I have Storm Tactical sniper log books.
With carbines and pistols, it's not really all that necessary. You can if you want to, but if you just keep mind a ballpark figure, it's just as good. The only reason to have a general understanding of round count for duty/defense grade weapons is for maintenance purposes.
Sounds about right. I think I'll go ahead and keep a log since it takes little effort. The engineer in me craves some form of documentation.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:03 AM   #32
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some questions about cleaning. I have yet to try out my usp, but im reading around that i should clean it first. I couldn't find anything in the manual about that. Is it necessary to clean before using it for the first time?

Also, what cleaning products do you like and how do you use them.

I have:
- Rem Oil (gel bottle, not aerosol)
- M Pro7
- Kleen Bore 9mm cleaning kit that comes with a solvent/solution

Should i use the Mpro on internals including the inside of the barrel THEN use Rem Oil or the kleenbore solvent for lubrication? Any other cleaning products you recommend?

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