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Old 11-17-2012, 11:46 PM   #21
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Please look at the link......Do you think that the "racing spring" would be too much of a drop? look at the measurements!

http://www.hrsprings.com/scripts/app...MW%20|%20323Ci
notice how the racing spring for cars w/o sports suspension and the sport spring for cars with sports suspension are the same part number? that's why i specified "red h&r sport springs" in my original post.
the red springs i have are the 29484 springs.
the 50484-88 springs are the racing springs for sports suspension. those will be too low for a daily driver.
the racing springs for cars without sport suspension (or sport spring for cars with sport suspension) is what i run and is perfect for a daily driver.

note* all sport/non sport springs are interchangeable.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:47 PM   #22
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I find myself dreaming that my car will someday look like these!!!!!

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Old 11-17-2012, 11:48 PM   #23
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If you dont mind....just tell me EVERYTHING that I would need to buy.....parts and all! Thanks!
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:50 PM   #24
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if you go to 2:34 ......that is exactly that stance that i want......FLUSH!!!!!
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:52 PM   #25
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I dont need adjustability AS LONG AS MY TIRES DONT SCRUB!!!!
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 PM   #26
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 PM   #27
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To be honest my friend I really want it to LOOK GOOD AND LOWERED.......AGGRESSIVE...... I would like it to at LEAST handle better than stock of that aint too much to ask and my budget is......well.....i would like to keep it between $800-$1000....closer to $800 if possible!
sounds like you want kw st coilovers. they offer a decent improvement in handling and will offer a very aggressive drop that is adjustable. they are the most affordable "real" coil over you can buy. any cheaper and you're buying garbage.

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search...
http://forum.E46Fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=932561
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http://forum.E46Fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=949796

you don't really need new spring pads or bump stops.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:55 PM   #28
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keep in mind though, low=sacrifice. even at my ride height i will scrape sometimes.
if you go as low as the cars in the vid you posted there will be parking lots and various places you can no longer drive. i'm not kidding.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:07 AM   #29
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honestly, if i were to do it over again i'd go with ground control coil overs with a modest spring rate (they can do custom spring rates)
this would be $1500ish though.
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When you say scrape do you mean tire scrubbing or scraping curb or both?
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seems like Bilstein PSS and PSS10 Systems are cheaper than kw st coilovers and ground control..............how much different all those? Ok.....final question.......if you can custom your spring rate, how do I know what spring rate to get?
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these are what i was talking about
http://www.modbargains.com/_e/E46_Su...6_3_Series.htm
they're a little cheaper than the pss coilovers.
you'd have to call ground control and talk to them. i'm not really sure how certain spring rates feel.

i means scraping like scraping bumper on pavement.
rubbing is from incorrect offsets in your wheels.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #33
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Thanks for all of your help man! You have really helped a bunch!!
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Another question: What is the difference between a Sway Bar and a Strut Brace and which one do i need to get?

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What brand of rear and front shock mounts should I get? I am in the process of ordering......or do I just get the standard stuff?
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Sway bar controls roll and is under the car. Strut brace reinforces the strut towers and goes inside the engine bay. It won't really have an affect on handling.
For the rear shock mounts I used meyle. Rogue engineering are prolly the best but they're expensive.
If you want to go with OEM get m3 or convertible rear shock mounts.
Front strut mounts can just be OEM you don't need to upgrade.
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Oh yeah and get the "z3 rear shock mount reinforcements"
They're little 1/4" thick metal plates that go between the shock mount and the metal of the car. They're a good idea when changing parts out.
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Dont the e46 already have sway bars from the factory? I thought I saw a posting of that earlier.....
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Dont the e46 already have sway bars from the factory? I thought I saw a posting of that earlier.....
The thickness of the away bad and the mounting position determines body roll. Increase thickness and you'll have less body roll.
Increasing stiffness of the rear increases understeer and increasing stiffness of the front increases oversteer. I think. Could be the other way around.
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Dont the e46 already have sway bars from the factory? I thought I saw a posting of that earlier.....
Yes you already have swaybars...some of the largest of any 3 series.

The firmer ride you make it, the more stress you put on other suspension related parts/areas. Before you go all out I would check that 1) your subframe has been replaced or repaired by BMW. 2) it's not showing any signs of cracks

Your model is one of the more prone to this expensive repair. Besides that your bushings will take a beating from such less compliant a ride.
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